Interesting that this chart separates the SKUs on the Windows NT kernel but lumps all the Linux kernel stuff together. I have to imagine that this isn’t intentional and it’s just an artifact of how they collect data.

This seems like a better resource for tracking a specific product over time than comparing between them. It’s also worth mentioning, as the other person pointed out, that the Linux kernel is the most audited codebase of all time, so that likely also plays into this a bit.

Right, I’m aware. All electronics are a collection of trade-offs. That is the unfortunate requirement of the modern world.

That’s not a thing that I said I want.

Super valid approach! I’m not out here casting judgement on where people choose to throw their money in a situation like this. I think there’s plenty of nuance and room for different values to end up with different results.

That’s fair. As far as I’m aware, Tuxedo laptops have a good history with repairability, and I personally use my devices until they die and are no longer suitable for what I need them for, so I’m not all that worried about being horribly unsustainable with it. I’ve heard Tuxedo laptops are pretty high quality as well, so that kinda covers all my bases.

For me, there’s the added moral imperative of spending less money on US companies as well, though. It’s kind of a balancing act all around. I’m not judging you for picking what you pick, either, though. Just different strokes and all that.

Yeah, I’m aware Tuxedo isn’t manufacturing their own parts. I would rather whatever cut isn’t spent on manufacturing costs to go toward an EU company, though.

Because I would rather pay a European company over an American company where possible for similarly valued products. By supporting a company here, I am hopefully contributing to an expanding market here.

Right, but if I spend money at an EU business, it doesn’t go away and might expand to design or make their own computers, or it might move the needle by showing a stronger interest in EU companies that allows for a company that does design parts in the EU to take that space.

Tuxedo is actually who I’m probably going to end up going with. Repairability is a must, upgrading I’m okay with being a “nice to have” for now. My fingers are crossed for something during the next upgrade cycle, though!

I appreciate the heads up, but I’m trying to buy from EU if I can.

I’m sure they are, but I’m trying to support EU companies rather than US if I can avoid it.

This is really cool, I hope they end up taking off. I wish there was something similar to this in the EU. I’d be very interested in a laptop I can upgrade over time.

I don’t hear much about Montana, but this kinda strikes me as unexpected from them.

I’m curious if this includes those who died in the internment camps or if this is just those gunned down in the street.

Is it weird to like this? I feel like this would be hella comfortable. Does it have buttons on the side for the fingers? Because that would be cool as hell.

Can you please mark this nsfw? Your slug is VISIBLY horny.

This is so absurdly funny

I’m fairly certain the RAM is soldered and capped, but it has 16gb, so more than I could reasonably touch anyway. It has a 500gb soldered SSD, but I know there’s a slot for another. The only reason I wanna ‘start’ by getting a rack and hard drives is because I watched my friend lose his mind one weekend while he migrated multiple terabytes of data and he has since repeatedly recommended keeping the storage separate and plug and play, haha.

I’m 100% down to give all this a shot, though. As soon as I upgrade, this laptop is immediately getting recycled into the first step server (and very probably the final step unless something drastic changes in my life).

The unfortunate reality is ‘what I’ve got’ is a 6 year old laptop that represents 60% of my net worth. 😅 Hopefully soon that will change, but for now, I’m taking the free/borrowed friend’s setup.

My game plan in the future is just to turn this laptop and a couple hard drives, though. I think comments like yours and a couple others have convinced me I really don’t need to invest all that much to get started, or really finished with the setup.nif you’re running all that on 8gb of RAM, I think the only thing I’m missing is the storage.

My friend shook me of any notion that I needed all that much, haha. I made a joke about getting a room set up for this and he shamed me by showing my resource use versus his. 🤣

Realistically, I think the only thing I’d ever end up needing is a ton of hard drives. That’s like… the biggest physical thing I need and as someone else in the thread pointed out there are some pretty solid smaller racks for that. My “starter” setup is going to be my current laptop when I upgrade in a year or so.

Edit: Whoa, that sounds like an incredible setup! All that is running fine on 16gb of RAM? Man, I really just need to do more reading about this so I can get a better sense of how all this works.