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  • Those bikes just rig the speed limiter

    Yeah, it’s a huge problem in Australia. Mostly they have an unlock code in the electronic controller that lets you simply over-ride the speed limit. Some stores sell it already over-ridden, or just tell you how to do it.

    But the other side of things is that Australia is a heavily car focused country, and whether they’re speed limited or not, whether they’re driven dangerously or not, they’re still far less lethal than cars, far less polluting than cars and far less wasteful than cars.

    Making ebikes unappealing to people will just ensure none of that changes.

    And the European standards are probably relevant in Europe, but they’re too conservative to increase ebike uptake here in Australia (or at least in Queensland, where I live). My state alone is 40 times the size of the Netherlands. And the city I live in has a comparable population to Amsterdam, but it’s spread over an area 6 times the physical size, with hills and a subtropical environment. We actually have pretty good cycling infrastructure as far as Australian cities go, but it’s nothing like what you have. So lots of our trips either need to be on the road, or on the footpath, and a 250W bike with a load going up a hill just isn’t safe on the road…


  • You don’t need to be condescending to get your point across. We’re having a discussion and disagreeing. The first sentence would have got your point across just fine.

    In any case, I know it’s not a car. But at the moment, my ebike means I don’t need a car. I want a bike that lets me get through life without having to own a car. A 250W would mean that I’d have to call taxis and ubers more often. I couldn’t just carry shopping, or garden supplies etc home, without it becoming a sweat inducing workout.

    I mean, I could do those things, but at 250W, I’m putting in a lot of the power myself. And I’ve already got my exercise covered. I don’t need to be changing clothes and taking a shower every time I ride up a hill on my bike.



  • You can drop the sarcasm. My roadbike has 15,000km on it. My ebike doesn’t even have a throttle. The only way to move it is to peddle.

    But I live in a sub tropical region. It doesn’t snow here, and temperatures have been hitting 35C this week, before we have even hit summer!

    When I used to commute to work on my roadbike, it was a workout. I’d get there covered in sweat, and feeling good.

    But I don’t use my ebike for workouts. I use it for daily life because I don’t own a car. And if every time I need to carry a load, it turns in to a workout and requires a change of clothes, then it’s no longer suitable for day to day life, and instead, becomes a workout tool. But I’ve already got one of those, and it’s not why I bought an ebike.



  • I’m old enough to be past my physical prime, and I don’t own a car. I use my ebike for everything. 250W is fine when your goal is exercise, or commuting, or the odd load here and there, but it just doesn’t cut it for every day use.

    Before I owned my ebike, I had a regular road bike that I did 15,000km on. But the only time it got used is when I was commuting or “going for a ride”. It was completely useless as a tool in my daily life. My ebike though sees regular use for things that most people would use a car for, and things that a road bike just couldn’t do.

    I have absolutely no problem with bikes being capped at 25km. And I have zero problem with taking away throttles above 6km/h too. I don’t want speed. I want something I can use to remain car free