• ProfThadBach@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    15 hours ago

    Years ago back when I was in the military I was Military Police. Being an officer I had to understand and know the UCMJ and the Geneva Convention. The MPs had to MOSs back then 95B and 95C. 95C was basically the prison guard. I was no longer in in the early 2000s when Abu Ghraib prison scandal broke I was like what the fuck are they doing? They were not trained like that. Now that I sit here and reflect on it I see where the CIA got their training from.

    • tomiant@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      14 hours ago

      I mean never forget the Stanford Prison Experiment.

      Even if you weren’t a sadistic genocidal psychopath, put on a uniform and go guard a secret prison where you literally are the law and order without oversight or consequence to your actions, and you and your guard buddies will soon become it.

      That’s why oversight and transparency is so critical in civilized democracies, and even then it’s a constant uphill struggle.

      These people started out sadistic genocidal psychopaths, just imagine the things we will never learn that they did… The fucking horrors…

      • DosDude@retrofed.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        14 hours ago

        Let’s do forget that experiment, since the “guards” were urged to act aggressive towards the prisoners. The “researchers” deliberately created hostility between the groups.

        Read more under the Critiques of scientific validity section on the Wikipedia

        • DillDough@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 hours ago

          Tbf we do the same with real prison guards…and police and military. The us vs them propaganda is a key part of the training and culture for all three.

          • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 hours ago

            Yeah that criticism might have validity for how to interpret the results but this specific situation still matches that new interpretation.

        • TheSambassador@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 hours ago

          Yeah fuck that experiment. Has any experiment generated more misanthrope than The Stanford Prison experiment?

  • tomiant@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    14 hours ago

    God’s chosen people strike again. Very on brand for the Old Testament god.

    • SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      11 hours ago

      Stop it. This didn’t happen because of of Judaism or Jewish ancestry - it happened because of dangerous ideology and a sense of impunity. Stop conflating the bastards who did this with their ethnic/religious group.

      • Highlow@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        11 hours ago

        I’ll associate Israelis as zeonists and ALL American Christians as white nationalists.

      • SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        11 hours ago

        Not what that word means. I’m getting a lot of mileage out of this link recently:

        Antisemitism (Wikipedia):

        Antisemitism or Jew-hatred is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews. A person who harbours it is called an antisemite.

        Languge doesn’t always make perfect logical sense.

    • SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      11 hours ago

      Do you mean to imply “Jews did this”? Because that is a racist distraction - stop conflating the bastards who did this with their ethnic/religious group.