I’ve heard part of the reason some people choose a Harley is because the sound makes them more noticeable in traffic, as a safety thing.
The merch is fucking stupid, but at least the noise does have a safety benefit, plenty of motorcycle riders get killed because other drivers didn’t notice them – good luck not noticing a Harley in close proximity.
I mean, a motorcycle is transportation. It can transport maybe you and one passenger (and some light cargo, I know), but it’s more practical in a car-centric service economy than walking everywhere. They’re also pretty fuel efficient for being so light, and fairly dangerous if people don’t notice your tiny ass (which is an advantage of all the noise)
I have literally zero negative or positive opinions about Harleys as motorcycles, I don’t own one or know anyone who does, I don’t even have a motorcycle license so feel free to correct me if you have a differing opinion – to me, they just are what some people enjoy. It’s the… quality of the people who tend to enjoy them that gives me the ick. Like a bar that didn’t quite fully kick the Nazis out. I know they aren’t all Nazis, but there are still a disturbing number of Nazis. Or at the very least, American neo-nazis are not frequently depicted riding crotch rockets from overseas.
That’s true, a motorcycle is transportation. And, I suppose if you just go for a ride around the city taking pleasure at annoying people with the sound of your loud pipes, it serves a “useful” function for you, in that it brings you pleasure.
I have literally zero negative or positive opinions about Harleys as motorcycles, I don’t own one or know anyone who does, I don’t even have a motorcycle license so feel free to correct me if you have a differing opinion
Ok, well that’s where I differ. Harleys are terrible motorcycles. They use engine technology from the 1960s while bikes from every other manufacturer use tech that’s decades more advanced. The power to weight ratios of their bikes are absolutely terrible, and not just because they’re cruisers, every other cruiser out there has a better power to weight ratio. Then, even worse is the price. The performance you get per dollar from a Harley is just awful.
With Harley you’re paying for the brand name. You get a bike that in every measurable way is worse than a bike by virtually any other manufacturer, but because Harley has done such a good job of establishing a certain image, people will overpay for an underperforming bike as long as it has that brand name attached, and as long as it has the Harley sound and feel. (And that “sound and feel” is basically an engine that is going to shake the fillings out of your teeth because it’s using ancient technology that every other manufacturer has ditched.)
The Nazi-adjacency is part of the mystique. They’re the “outlaw motorcycle gang” brand, and a lot of the outlaw motorcycle gangs are not just violent, they’re also racist, sexist, homophobic, and so-on. It’s really the brand for dentists and lawyers who have boring office jobs but want to spend money to feel like they’re badasses. They’re not going to commit heinous crimes, but they can dress up like the people who do, and feel a bit of a thrill that maybe the people that see them on their bikes are going to be a bit afraid.
Want to look like a bad-ass tough guy [please don’t look into this], without having to actually do anything other than buy merch and possibly buy an overpriced motorcycle? Just buy Harley Davison gear, and we promise people won’t actually be laughing at you.
Pretty much ‘anything’ clothing. I guess if it’s a clothing brand of good quality and there is no choice except to wear it with the logo they stick on it might be an exception, but anything outside of that is basically paying to belong to some club with basically no membership requirements except spending money.
I would go so far as to say anything Harley Davidson related, even their motorcycles. They are over priced and under performing compared to literally every thing else.
Yeah, I was on the fence about that. If someone has just a motorcycle and none of the gear, I might give them a pass, based on which motorcycle and how they have it set up.
Harley Davidson clothing: they’re very insecure.
Harley Davidson: „Pay tomorrows prices for yesterday’s technology!“
Wanna know the difference between a Harley and a lawn mower?
The lawn mower has a reason to sound like that.
I’ve heard part of the reason some people choose a Harley is because the sound makes them more noticeable in traffic, as a safety thing.
The merch is fucking stupid, but at least the noise does have a safety benefit, plenty of motorcycle riders get killed because other drivers didn’t notice them – good luck not noticing a Harley in close proximity.
The lawnmower also serves a useful function.
I mean, a motorcycle is transportation. It can transport maybe you and one passenger (and some light cargo, I know), but it’s more practical in a car-centric service economy than walking everywhere. They’re also pretty fuel efficient for being so light, and fairly dangerous if people don’t notice your tiny ass (which is an advantage of all the noise)
I have literally zero negative or positive opinions about Harleys as motorcycles, I don’t own one or know anyone who does, I don’t even have a motorcycle license so feel free to correct me if you have a differing opinion – to me, they just are what some people enjoy. It’s the… quality of the people who tend to enjoy them that gives me the ick. Like a bar that didn’t quite fully kick the Nazis out. I know they aren’t all Nazis, but there are still a disturbing number of Nazis. Or at the very least, American neo-nazis are not frequently depicted riding crotch rockets from overseas.
That’s true, a motorcycle is transportation. And, I suppose if you just go for a ride around the city taking pleasure at annoying people with the sound of your loud pipes, it serves a “useful” function for you, in that it brings you pleasure.
Ok, well that’s where I differ. Harleys are terrible motorcycles. They use engine technology from the 1960s while bikes from every other manufacturer use tech that’s decades more advanced. The power to weight ratios of their bikes are absolutely terrible, and not just because they’re cruisers, every other cruiser out there has a better power to weight ratio. Then, even worse is the price. The performance you get per dollar from a Harley is just awful.
With Harley you’re paying for the brand name. You get a bike that in every measurable way is worse than a bike by virtually any other manufacturer, but because Harley has done such a good job of establishing a certain image, people will overpay for an underperforming bike as long as it has that brand name attached, and as long as it has the Harley sound and feel. (And that “sound and feel” is basically an engine that is going to shake the fillings out of your teeth because it’s using ancient technology that every other manufacturer has ditched.)
The Nazi-adjacency is part of the mystique. They’re the “outlaw motorcycle gang” brand, and a lot of the outlaw motorcycle gangs are not just violent, they’re also racist, sexist, homophobic, and so-on. It’s really the brand for dentists and lawyers who have boring office jobs but want to spend money to feel like they’re badasses. They’re not going to commit heinous crimes, but they can dress up like the people who do, and feel a bit of a thrill that maybe the people that see them on their bikes are going to be a bit afraid.
Want to look like a bad-ass tough guy [please don’t look into this], without having to actually do anything other than buy merch and possibly buy an overpriced motorcycle? Just buy Harley Davison gear, and we promise people won’t actually be laughing at you.
Pretty much ‘anything’ clothing. I guess if it’s a clothing brand of good quality and there is no choice except to wear it with the logo they stick on it might be an exception, but anything outside of that is basically paying to belong to some club with basically no membership requirements except spending money.
Really good quality clothing doesn’t have prominent logos.
I would go so far as to say anything Harley Davidson related, even their motorcycles. They are over priced and under performing compared to literally every thing else.
Yeah, I was on the fence about that. If someone has just a motorcycle and none of the gear, I might give them a pass, based on which motorcycle and how they have it set up.