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“NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE,” posts the man who just led us into war.
Ikr, it’s like puncing someone in the face and then telling that person now is the moment to stop fighting lol
I read a post that said he couldn’t go to war without a vote from congress, was that wrong?
Edit: I’m not a US citizen so I’m not sure
The constitution gives Congress the exclusive power to formally declare war.
That said, Congress hasn’t declared war since 1942, yet we’ve obviously taken part in many wars since then.
Sadly there just hasn’t been enough Congressional support to retaliate against a president for jumping to military action without authorization. And it doesn’t help that the average American doesn’t know that the president is not allowed to just deploy troops at will (in most cases, Iran included).
If the president can do it without consequences, then he is allowed. Turns out words on paper mean nothing.
Legally speaking that’s correct. There was nothing legal about this, though.
I guess many will disagree but what’s wrong about bombing nuclear sites in countries trying to develop nukes?
The intelligence agencies contradicted that narrative. The administration hasn’t made a case that it is actually happening, but have just declared it so.
Very much rhymes with declaration that Iraq had WMDs.
As far as evidence goes, it looks like Trump has dragged us into another conflict that we really shouldn’t be in. Which is dissapointing as if there was one small silver lining about Trump was that his rhetoric used to be that we shouldn’t be wasting military resources in middle east conflicts so much.
Because the countries bombing them already have nukes. That is peak hypocrisy.
Iran is going to close the Straight of Hormuz.
There goes the worlds economy.
25% of the worlds oil runs through there.
And then the Trump will invade Iran to open it citing it must remain open.
Shhhh! That’s supposed to be a secret plan!
I still don’t see that happening. Trump likes his popularity too much.
Like, he’ll nuke Iran before he ever puts boots on the ground.
He’s dying to use a nuke, just to put his name in history books.
You don’t need to invade to do that.
They may try.
There would be more than just the US and Israel bombing them if that happened, you just don’t fuck with international trade.
Well, yeah. It wouldn’t be WW3 without more dance partners.
Who’s going to back up Iran though? Maybe the houthis, but they barely count.
Russia and China both have defense treaties with Iran.
Russia probably isn’t much of a concern right now.
China…we wouldn’t overextend a conflict to the point where China gets involved, right? …Not again? …For the third time?
Except it won’t even be a proxy war since the US just struck directly
russia does need a stable iran, for its drone deliveries. china provides iran with huwei tech.
Pakistan, and they have nukes.
china helped them developed it in the cold war, as a buffer to india.
Much of it is from Iran and destined for China. They won’t stop those exports.
That’ll teach the Democrats for not embracing socialism.
Kamala did warn you Americans.
Given how Germany, France, the UK etc have all lined up behind Israel, towing the line that Israel has a right to defend itself, and even going as far as saying that Israel is doing our dirty work for us, I have very serious doubts that Harris would not have followed Israel down the warpath.
A Kamala administration would not have left the Iran nuclear agreement though.
Trump killed off the JCPOA in 2018. Biden had four years after 2020 to do something about that and didn’t. So I don’t know what you’re basing your assertion on, it sounds more like wishful thinking to me.
Iran had zero interest immediately re-entering the agreement the previous president just broke. And rightfully so.
Clearly you just want to blame Biden and Democrats for this and pretend things would be just as bad with Harris
Well clearly you have me all figured out, motives and all.
My original argument is specific: the way the European powers have aligned themselves with Israeli craziness does not inspire confidence that the Democrats would have been less hawkish. Underlying assumption: the Democrats tend to be as dovish as the Europeans.
The previous commenter made a counterfactual claim that Harris would not have pulled out of JCPOA and I pointed out that a Harris admin wouldn’t have a JCPOA to pull out of.
You’re now spinning a narrative around these very simple things I’ve said. Did the tankies hurt you and now you see them everywhere?
Biden
i suspect he was holding out til his 2nd term, but did not account for the fact that he had to drop out likely due to his cancer symptoms last year.
Now, when a terrorist attack occurs, he’s fully justified in declaring martial law.
It’s as good as over, folks. Checkmate.
he doesn’t even need that. he already does whatever he wants legal or not
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
This lukewarm take in every comment section is so old and boring. Maybe try blaming the fascists for all the, you know, fascism.
It’s fair game to blame citizens of fascist countries for the politics they helped to bring forward. And the “democrats and republicans are the same”-crowd that is very vocal on Lemmy definitely helped to enable this.
Have you ever once thought “maybe I/we didn’t do enough to stop the genocide”? Blaming the D politicians for supporting genocide? The D voters/financiers for not condemning the genocide?
Maybe try that if you ever get another chance to vote, lol. Good luck!
Or you can just continue blaming the people you failed to motivate against a fascist sociopath, twice. I’m sure things will turn out differently next time!
Sounds like you don’t like me reminding protest-non-voters what they voted for.
Got another 3.5 years of this. Longer if you count the time it takes to fix things.
we’re all suffering because of people who protest nonvoted right now. So fuck them. They’re just as much to blame as the maga voters. They fucked everything up. Its fucked. Its all fucked. So yeah, were going to be pissed about it.
I don’t know maybe you’ll end up with Trump again after this if people don’t change the way they vote.
*Bombs a peaceful country. “Now is the time for peace.” 🫲🍊🫱
Closeted men of war preaching about peace. Closeted gays fighting against gay rights. Judgemental/greedy/racist religious people putting themselves on a pedestal about how you should “take care of thy neighbor”.
It’s always the ones who preach the most, the same ones doing the exact opposite of what they preach. Always the ones bitching about the bad in the world actively hard at work making the world a shittier place.
Seriously, if Trump says the sky is blue I’ll immediately look up just to check if it hasn’t turned red/green/pink/whatever.
Be always wary of the ones telling you how to live, and watch out for their actions closely. There’s no hate like the ‘love’ of these hypocrites.
I can’t even with this shit
WW3 has officially begun.
Officially we’ll only be able to call that afterwards, during the cold war ww3 also almost begun. We should still try stop and prevent it, no matter how difficult it to argue it hasn’t begun yet.
Not defending any of this but these WW3 comments are so weird. The US has been in so many wars in the Middle East, why would this specific one turn into a world war? Especially since there will not be boots on the ground (you never know with trump but I think that’s genuinely the last thing he wants to do).
Remove Trump now!
You know, the first two were enough for the world.
I guess we’ve lived long enough to see ourselves become the villain.
I guess we’ve lived long enough to see ourselves become the villain.
Always have been.
This fucking dickhead drumphkins. Could someone please…
without congressional approval
Quit. You are ruled by a dictator.
Can someone help me out here. How do they know that these sites are being used for nuclear weapons production specifically?
Iran does have a nuclear power plant and they do enrich their own uranium. Not trying to justify these bombings, I’m just curious on how they determined these sites are specifically for weapon manufacturing.
Remember when Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?
Same thing.
So total bullshit with zero evidence, cool. Just felt I was missing something as they kept calling them nuclear sites without specifying what they believed the sites were being used for.
Thanks for confirming
Netanyahu has been insisting that Iran will have a nuclear weapon in months for a while now. Here’s a Jon Stewart clip talking about it: https://youtube.com/shorts/jlqXOwYfpdQ
