I cannot explain how much I do not want to see this green dot and “New!” text in my application launcher. Rather than be a passionate contributor like you, I have regrettably become a slave to the Big Tech industry - But one thing I can provide is insight into why operating systems like iOS and Windows have this noise: Impact driven development People need to justify their work on a continuous basis, with the upside of promotions and downside of layoffs. They add the most useless feature...
    • Ellie@slrpnk.netEnglish
      22·
      6 days ago

      I think it’s still an interesting question whether this feature should be enabled by default (and most people seem to agree it should be).

  • whaleross@lemmy.world
    42·
    6 days ago

    For every change there is an angry Linux user. Even when it is easily disabled and never a problem again.

    On the flip side - how often do you install new programs so this becomes an annoyance in the first place?

    I install something new maybe once a month or less for desktop use. I have not even noticed this blip.

    Somewhat more often in and for terminal use.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
      24·
      6 days ago

      Yeah. Plus they immediately got a reply from someone showing where you can turn it off in settings.

  • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de
    29·
    6 days ago

    I was very annoyed when I got this, but remembered that it’s KDE, and turning it off is 4 clicks. Proprietary software often doesn’t allow you to turn this off (easily). Windows has this “feature”, where is the setting?

    I don’t think it’s a productive “feature”, but considering it can be turned off so easily I don’t consider it a complete showstopper.

    • IAmTheKernelError@piefed.socialEnglish
      151·
      6 days ago

      He said “I’ll donate 100 EUR if you remove”, so I think he may be obligated to donate every single time this option is disabled.

  • Cas@pawb.socialEnglish
    14·
    6 days ago

    I’m glad there’s a toggle, it seems like it would actually be useful here but I’d probably turn it off.

    With that said, there’s a special place in hell for the multitudes of apps that have red notification dots all over the UI with no clear indicator as to what they’re about or how to clear them :D

    • Deebster@programming.dev
      5·
      6 days ago

      Yeah, I hate those little dots and I inevitably jump through the hoops until I’ve clicked enough things to make them go away.

  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
    111·
    5 days ago

    I find this complaint very strange. It’s a dot. It helps people find what they installed.

    But if this person doesn’t need it, how would they ever see it? Most power users I know never even look in the menu, so they would never know there is a dot in the first place.

    • DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
      21·
      5 days ago

      It’s all a show. Some people are just desperate for attention. “Oh, look at me, I’m OCD” as if that makes them cool or something. This person just spent €100 for literally nothing (glad it went to kde of course). Being annoyed by this is, IMHO, very stupid. It’s a menu that can’t even stay open. Who’s sitting there sifting their menu all day long that this bothers them? 😂

  • Aristotelis@lemmy.ml
    2·
    4 days ago

    Are you trying to bribe the devs to remove a harmless feature that can get turned off with two clicks?! Seriously??

  • DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
    41·
    5 days ago

    I’ll never understand why this “new/green dot” thing exist, but I’ll also never understand why it would bother anyone. lol. Like, it’s in kick-off. How often are you scrolling through kick-off? Does anyone keep that menu open at all times that it triggers your OCD seeing it? Am I missing something? Or is it just people seeking attention?

    • limelight79@lemmy.world
      4·
      4 days ago

      When I install a new application, I generally run it immediately. Having the new indicator might be nice to help find it - they don’t always drop into the menu where I expect.

      I agree, I can’t see why it upsets the author so much. “You’ve installed a new app, here it is.” “YYYEEEAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!”

  • HelloRoot@lemy.lolEnglish
    8·
    6 days ago

    There is a setting, but I was equally annoyed that it is on by default.

    Even more surprising - when I launched the new app miltiple times, it was still marked as new.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
      20·
      6 days ago

      It’s probably time based.

      And this kind of thing isn’t for the type of people who mess with settings. If this defaulted to off, then it would actually be useless.

      • HelloRoot@lemy.lolEnglish
        3·
        6 days ago

        If this defaulted to off, then it would actually be useless.

        Would just be the other way around with what posts you see online. Instead of OP you’d see “how can I find my newly installed apps” and the same “ahem” screenshot reply.

        • vandsjov@feddit.dk
          3·
          5 days ago

          Except that if people don’t know the feature exists, they might not ask about it. If you see the feature exists and you don’t want it, it is easier to figure out how to turn it off.

          There are many feature that are turned on by default - this is just one of them.

          • HelloRoot@lemy.lolEnglish
            1·
            5 days ago

            I see plenty of posts here, on the kde matrix, on the kde forums, on the bugtracker asking for non existing features.

            I have no clue about the exact percentages, their motivations or feelings, so it’s hard to conclude anything.

            Personally, I more often ask for nonexistent features (and i feel no barriers there) than turning off something that is on by default - which is a good sign I guess?

            • vandsjov@feddit.dk
              0·
              3 days ago

              But you don’t see all the people that does not ask for features, but could benefit from them. I worked IT support for years and I often suggested features or different workflow to users because I could see they were doing things that could be done easier.

    • dan@upvote.au
      13·
      6 days ago

      Some apps have weird names and I forget what they’re called. Showing a “new” badge, even if it’s just for the first few times I open the app, makes it more likely that I’ll remember the app’s name.

        • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
          71·
          6 days ago

          I dunno man.

          It’s not like linux applications ever have different app-names in the menu, when compared to the package name you just saw when installing it.

          That has never tripped me up. No. Never.

          /S

        • Aiwendil@lemmy.ml
          6·
          6 days ago

          You can set most KDE menus to show the “Comment” key of the .desktop files instead of the “Name” key. So “KDE Advanced Text Editor” instead of “Kate”.

          Packages can come with several “programs” that aren’t necessarily named the same as the package. Example: Calibre installs menu items for “Calibre”, “EBookViewer” and “EBookEditor” on my distro.

          It’s not about forgetting…it’ about helping to quickly find what you just installed and what is all included.