• tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
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    My definition: aggressive spread and resilience to removal.

    Plants that are pretty might get more of a ‘pass’ than ones which are ugly, poisonous or thorny, but ultimately, even the most beautiful flower becomes a weed when it’s suddenly everywhere and you are fighting constantly to get rid of it.

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      aggressive spread and resilience to removal

      Humans are a weed.

      becomes a weed when it’s suddenly everywhere and you are fighting constantly to get rid of it

      (Humans! :))
      But you are fighting constantly to get rid of it bcs of some arbitrary goals. And the fact it’s spreading means that it’s perfectly adapted for survival in that environment you created, so it’s perfect for that pace.

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          My sounding port is DC 24V compatible, just hook me up, I have still decades of battery life to offer!

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          True. Which still leads to an infestation.

          On non-logarithmic scale:

          And don’t forget that shown is just the last couple of thousand of years - there are 4 more millions of years prior to this of slow growth (and some collapses) but it wouldn’t even register on such a chart.

          Ugh, I guess this is far off topic.

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            The average growth rate from 10,000 BCE to 1700 was just 0.04% per year.

            Wow that’s crazy to me. I had always envisioned humans steadily spreading and growing constantly. I had no idea that we were basically treading water for so long.

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              Yeah, 4 million years of various “humanoid” species cohabiting & barely making it through (one big event wiping out the whole species - that’s why we have such a shallow gene pool & all look “identical” relative to difs in other species).

              But the rapid growth was always unsustainable, the gens lived on natural wealth that they just took out of (into?) the economy way quicker than the replenishing cycle. But the difference between a million and a billon is unimaginable, that’s why we can now witness the collapse (mass extinction event) within a generation.

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            6 months ago

            Love the malthusianism. Why focus on person or life quality when you can terminate your thoughts with ‘human bad’?

            No need to ever fix or grow if just ‘human bad’.

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      6 months ago

      My definition: aggressive spread and resilience to removal.

      That fits to a lot of useful plants too. Strawberries, Brambles, Mint, just to name a few.

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        Yes. If you don’t have adequate containment then strawberries can absolutely be a weed.

        A delicious weed, but still a weed.

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          And that’s the actual definition of a weed: If you don’t want it there, it’s a weed. If you do, it’s not.