• bizarroland@lemmy.world
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      14 hours ago

      You have completely missed the point of my entire rant.

      Cico works, but “o” is a variable that can vary wildly from person to person, day to day based on environmental, genetic, and nutritional factors.

        • FarceOfWill@infosec.pub
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          12 hours ago

          The only way to find it is to eat less and less until you lose weight tbh. Cico is vacuously true.

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            Cico is vacuously true.

            https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vacuously

            Showing a lack of thought or intelligence; vacant.

            Surprisingly, I agree with you! CICO is lacking in thought and intelligence when applied to human metabolism.

            The second law of thermodynamics requires a closed system, humans are famously open what with their breathing, eating, pooping, and peeing.

            CICO is like saying cars without fuel don’t move, so if overfill the tank you should park your car. It misses the point, and that is the hormonal drivers in human fat mobilization.

            Sugar/Carbs drive blood glucose, which drives blood insulin, which shuts down fat mobilization. Yes, you can lose weight eating only sugar, but it’s making the entire process more difficult then it needs to be. For more details please see The Carbohydrate-Insulin Model of Obesity - Beyond “Calories In, Calories Out” - 2018

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      15 hours ago

      Eating a tapeworm also makes you lose weight, doesn’t mean it’s healthy. Not everyone can starve themselves thin in a healthy way.

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        15 hours ago

        You don’t need to “starve” yourself. That journey can be milder (though longer).

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          3 hours ago

          This is what you’re not getting. Some people do. Just getting to the point of not feeling like they’re starving puts them over their calories out.