Hey,
I’m using Joplin (a Markdown note taking app) and think about migrating to Logseq because of multiple reasons.
The main problems I have not yet solved:
- OSS-Syncing Logseq notes between Desktop OS and Android. Logseq does not have an OSS selfhostable sync-server like Joplin has…
- Making sure to transform my stuff, so that Logseq can work with it. Yes, it’s both Markdown, but especially images and how Joplin handles them seem to be a problem for this migration.
What are your experiences? Have you ever switched between 2 Markdown note taking apps?
- Which ones?
- How well went it?
Is it maybe even possible to use app 1 and a Desktop OS and a totally different app on Android simultaneously on the same data? The common standard is Markdown…
Hi, why are you migrating away from Joplin? Did you know you can use it in non-markdown mode (basically wysiwyg) I found myself to use it more and more. And the md is still underlayed and I can switch to it if I have issues with the editor. You can link between notes too. There is a plugin to see a notes map (kinda like obsidian.
I like Jopin, but the user experience feels a bit old (don’t want to say outdated) compared to something like Logseq.
And I also like the idea of links between notes and it becoming a graph. My nested folder structure in Joplin has gotten large.
I don’t like that Joplin does not store the notes as real markdown. They are not readable by humans until you export them.
I do not want Wysiwyg via mouse, e.g. by clicking the “bold” button. Trying out Logseq felt really good. For example, it allows to open sections of a large file on the right, which is nice, because you can easily focus on that part.
I like how Logseq has a nice “table of content” plugin that renders the TOC on the side instead of injecting it into the markdown file, which is not nice, because the file changes and you need to always update the TOC.
But I also don’t like what others describe here about Logseq’s markdown handling. A heading being after a bullet point feels wrong.
Adding functionality to Joplin via Plugins is an option, but the plugins will maybe not work on Android…
IMO, there is no optimal solution for me. I like parts of Joplin and others of Logseq, but there is no solution that has all of them.
Got it. I don’t know Logseq, I will check it out, thanks for the tip. A few notes regarding Joplin (some of which I already stated above)
- you can link between notes and add plugin to see the graph. To get a note link, click on it with right button and there is an option to copy a link to that note. You can also link to a section of note with hashtags
- joplin actually store the notes in md. However, if you have encryption turned on, you will of course see gibberish upon openning the file (its possible its only when you sync with filesystem I am not sure).
- the wysiwyg (and md as well) works also with shortcuts e.g. ctrl+b
- Joplin also has table of content plugin, its called “Outline” and its sitting in the right bar. You can add plugins in Tools > Options > Plugins
- I didn’t check the plugins on android, I don’t use it much there mostly for quick checks :)
- its hard to find something that fits you 100 %, but you can try make your own, that is how most of the foss projects start :)
Currently testing zettelnotes, as it has git support, and file encryption. (I know Obsidian has several encryption plugins and git support) Obsidians is quite slow on my phone (too many plugins 😅) and I wouldn’t mind my notes being encrypted just for peace of mind.
Importing notes went quite good so far. I like Obsidians UI better as it is more polished.
First I was impressed by the extensibility of Obsidian, but over time I figured, I don’t need most plugins on a daily basis.
I would like to have a markdown Editor on Android, that supports editing .md file stored in different folders, without the need of setting up a Vault or other setup steps.
I use Markor Notes on my android device with syncthing to send it all to my PC. It’s a terrific markdown (and general text) editor that doesn’t have much of an opinion about how you organize your files.
I migrated from Logseq to Anytype. I just took the raw contents from the directories and imported them as markdown in the desktop client.
Since I moved to PARA, everything has been archived. When I need a page from the archive I edit it to make it look better.
I migrated from Joplin to Obsidian a year or two ago. It was straightforward. With Joplin, I had to use the export functionality from the desktop app. That cleaned up any non-standard bits and allowed for a straightforward import into Obsidian.
Logseq to Obsidian.
Logseq’s markdown is weird and not standard. Everything is indented and in a list, even headings. I love me some open source, but this is a hard no.
Open your logseq files in a plain text editor and compare with the standard. I spend much of my time editing them back to Markdown.
Syncing logseq is easy on Syncthing. The only issue being that one has to watch out for conflicts by not editing one on one instance before the other sends it/it is received, but that’s a sync issue not Logseq.
Bro. Just try it with duplicate files.
You will find out if the pictures don’t load.As for syncing: I heard some use syncthing for that.
My personal problem with it is, that I can never be sure it’s done with multi device usage as there is no feedback to tell me so.I am using Obsidian.md both with a remote repository (built-in 1st party paid model) and a community plugin for another repository using remotely-save (which saves it to my personal onedrive folder).
Both options have an indicator that they are done saving.
But with remotely-save I encountered corruption when I turned on my pc which hadnt had connected in a longer time. And remotely-save is configured to stop syncing if >50% of files have been changed.
So now I am running a background task to zip the whole folder and purge the oldest one every week.Obsidian-Syncthing user here. I agree with what someone else said about no feedback from syncthing that it is or is not done updating files. Beyond that though, it’s a great tool that handles all my notes well.
Try silver bullet https://silverbullet.md/
I use it for a few years now and it’s lightweight and useful. Also my markdown notes are in real folders without much database overhead.
A few things I miss (and would like to see added in form of plugins to keep the pure style):- A real folder navigator additionally to the open pages dialogue
- A proper WYSIWYG export to PDF
- Drawn, diagram and mindmap style notes
But it’s still my favourite over Obsidian.
Have you tried to open a joplin .MD file in a plain text editor? That is not markdown. Its markdown wrapped into some Joplin format.
Can it really be migrated 1:1 to another app?
Joplin’s notes can easily be exported as standard markdown (File | Export All | Markdown).
When I was evaluating Joplin and Obsidian for my notes, I switched between them multiple times and it was very easy. The folder of markdown files exported from joplin can be opened directly as an obsidian vault. The only issue is if you had resized any images with Joplin’s rich text editor (doing that converts the images to html img src tags, but that was easily fixed with a script to convert them back to markdown links)
I can’t say whether it can be cleanly migrated to another app but there are a number of export options to get you either to plain Markdown or something else within reason. When using the export option, the resulting Markdown at lest gives relative paths to any included media.
I don’t think it’s fair to suggest it’s not using Markdown. It just has a wrapper around it to make it work better for the usual use case of being a digital workbook.
OP have a look at “Jimmy”, it might be what you’re looking for: https://marph91.github.io/jimmy/formats/joplin/ ( https://github.com/marph91/jimmy )
I haven’t migrated apps (except ditching Evernote), but I use Obsidian with obsidian-livesync and it works great - typing on my phone live updates the notes on my PC. Downside is you need the self hosted software running somewhere
I moved from Evernote to Joplin a number of years ago, and now self-host the Joplin server and use Joplin on all of my devices. Great app. I’m afraid I can’t help with the migration from that to something else, though!
I just edit markdown files with neovim and sync with Syncthing. I don’t have it set up on android, but you sould probably use markor to edit.
I used to do that, but eventually found out about https://silverbullet.md/ it’s still just markdown files but I can edit them on the go with my phone.
Plus it has some nice extra syntax to query documents that’s quite handy.
@Nibodhika this looks very interesting. so I can import all my existing markdown notes and vice versa?
Yup, just drop the markdown files in the folder where Silverbullet stores the markdown files and they’re accessible. BTW the format to reference a file is [[path/to/file]] and you can reference inexistent files and they will get created when you navigate to them.
I use YouTrack’s knowledgebase, which has a plugin for Draw.IO. I use the cloud version which is free but you can host it yourself.
