• prettybunnys@piefed.social
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    I learned all of those from my small town USA education.

    Then I learned about them in social studies classes in middle school.

    Then I learned about the American form of democracy in a civics class. Which is where my understanding of its failures were formed, even before it had the ability to show my adult self

    Then I was allowed to choose a number of elective courses in high school where I studied European history and post enlightenment political theory.

    We even covered Marx and Engels.

    Weird.

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        Yeah but, which part exactly should I not understand because of my American education?

        So you’re not talking about Marx and Engels, but you are somehow talking about socialism AND scientific socialism no less?

        You wanna take some time to gather your thoughts first?

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          You wanna take some time to gather your thoughts first?

          Either you’re quite condescending or there is some confusion here. I’m going to assume it’s the latter; if it’s the former, well… life is an adventure.

          Yeah but, which part exactly should I not understand because of my American education?

          I’m not referring to you in my original comment[1](https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/20221397), but to the person to whose comment I’m responding.

          So you’re not talking about Marx and Engels, but you are somehow talking about socialism AND scientific socialism no less?

          The vocabulary I said I wasn’t referring to is the list of terms provided by Prole[2](https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/20225314) in response to your question[3](https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/20225057). My original comment was offhand, not intended to be a detailed analysis, so their response was assumptive. I’m familiar with the user and they’re good people, so I’m sure it was in good faith.

          To answer your original question, here are specific terms in the Wikipedia article[4](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_socialism) I would suggest are not covered in US public education with sufficient depth or frequency to give the average citizen the functional vocabulary necessary to fully understand the article without significant further reading. I.e., most Americans would be unable to provide even a basic (correct) definition if asked.

          Materialism
          Historical materialism
          Dialectical materialism
          Utopian socialism
          Scientific government/Technocracy(though briefly described in line)
          Classical liberalism
          Marxism

          And by extension…

          Scientific socialism

          The United States ranks 36th in the world for population literacy, with 54% of Americans reading below a 6th-grade proficiency level and 21% being functionally illiterate[5](https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/2024-2025-literacy-statistics), so I’m pretty comfortable with my suggestion but am willing to be convinced otherwise.