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    If it hadn’t left the ship you’d be right, but it has. A Swiss man left the cruise and tested positive later. If he rode public transit during rush hour even once while infected it could be bad.

    I’m not as familiar with Swiss transport, but I’ve been packed ass to face many of times on a train in Europe

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      Notable that the virus has a 1 to 8 Week incubation period. The first guy died 5 days into the trip. Implying that he(and probably his wife) brought it onto the ship.

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        Right if you read the article he was the only one that both left the ship and was later confirmed as infected. There was another Dutch couple that left while sick and quickly were hospitalized. My concern is he was able to move around freely all while he was unknowingly infected. He seems to be the one that had the most opportunity to spread the infection.

        Others also left early and have been quarantined. They have not shown symptoms so I didn’t bring them up when discussing spread. One infected couple left early as well, but they were already sick and didn’t leave South Africa. Although they may have infected a flight attendant, still waiting on tests.

        Of course the virus can have a long incubation period. So these individuals may be more relevant to discussion later. There are those that were evacuated to recieve medical treatment elsewhere, but it’s not like they are walking around their respective countries.

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          So first, i don’t think that article says they tracked them all.

          And second, if you can test them and rule out infection with certainty, why would they be ordered to isolate?

          I think the incubation period does play a role there.

          Authorities in St. Helena, the volcanic British territory in the South Atlantic where passengers disembarked, said they were monitoring a small number of people who were considered “higher risk contacts.” Those contacts were being told to isolate for 45 days, the St. Helena government said.

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            Yes those higher risk contacts in St. Helena are those that interacted with the passangers/crew when the ship was in port. They are not the people that were passangers on board the ship that left.

            And second, if you can test them and rule out infection with certainty, why would they be ordered to isolate?

            I did not say this. They are testing an already ill flight attendant. You can’t test during the incubation period. Which is highly variable with this virus.

            The incubation period is huge. In 40 days we’ll know if we are having another pandemic or not.

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      Hantavirus is not COVID. Every contagious disease isn’t spread through aerosols. Hantavirus needs close, extended contact to transfer, unlike COVID. You’re not going to get hantavirus from walking into a store.

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        Yes I understand that. Being crammed against another person for a long enough period of time seems right. During any major holiday if you take a train you can easily spend 1 or 2 hours pressed against a few people. Seems fairly close and extended to me. Especially considering there may have already been spread of the virus from contact in an airplane.

        Rush hour commutes you might be pressed against a couple of people for 20 minutes or so depending on your commute. This is close, but maybe not extended enough.

        The potential is there

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          For transfer exclusively to people who spend extended time on very crowded public transit, maybe, but that describes a very tiny portion of Americans.

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            Okay now I’m confused. I was talking about the Swiss guy who returned to Switzerland and the public transit system of Europe.

            I suppose we’re on a thread talking about some American public figures huffing Ivermectin, but I was more concerned about the spread. Which seems like it will kick off in Europe first

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              Oh, I misunderstood, because of the OP I thought we were talking about the US. I still wouldn’t worry about it, you need bodily fluid contact to transfer it. Monkeypox is more contagious and it never took off.