• dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    You are making a fool out of yourself.

    The method of activation has nothing to do with it. the point is that your oven won’t make the whole cake just by telling it.

    And here you just claim that I have that position and start talking as if its true without confirming. That is just embarrassing.

    No ai isn’t alive. The little robot that cleans isn’t alive either. I’m astounded at how simple minded you are.

    You have to lie, offensively bad because the conversation is there to read through and confirm that it isn’t my position, just to… I don’t even know what you tried to accomplish with that.

    If you would put more time into actually learning something maybe you wouldn’t need to redefine “I made” to have something to be proud of. But I guess you know that you are so utterly skillless and unimaginative that you gave up already.

    And the part that is completely unbelievable is that, even in an environment where pretty much all the work is done for you your output ist still bad.

    • The Dank Memegician @thelemmy.club
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      11 hours ago

      The only one making a fool out of themselves is you. Im not claiming anything about your position that you didn’t clearly state yourself.

      The little robot that cleans is a tool. Only a fool would claim it is anything else.

      When I turn on a vacuum and push it around I am using a TOOL to clean my house.

      When I turn on the cleaning robot to clean my house, im using a TOOL to clean my house.

      When i set a pre-programmed schedule for that little autonomous cleaning robot to clean my house every Wednesday I am STILL USING A TOOL TO CLEAN MY HOUSE.

      Your argument is that there is some imaginary arbitrary % of work done at which the tool is no longer being used to fulfill a task and it somehow magically becomes an “entity” completing the task all on its own.

      I dont need to lie about your position, I spent several comments pinning it down with various questions to make sure it was properly fleshed out before I broke it down and addressed it.

      The part that is ACTUALLY unbelievable is that you are getting mad at me because you dont fully understand your own position on the topic and you are clearly incapable of extrapolating the conclusions of the arguments you are putting forward.

      EITHER:

      Ai is a tool humans use to complete a task in which case I used ai to make this art

      Or

      Its its own living entity completing tasks on its own, of its own free will in which case I didn’t make the art

      There is no “third option” where AI is both a tool used in completing a task and also an entity that completes a task all on its own like you seem to want so badly to believe.

          • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
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            11 hours ago

            You bet your ass I’m avoiding.

            For you pushing a button on a entity the going out and coming back to a clean floor is the same as pushing a button on an entity and have to shove it around, manage the cable, go down to reach spots under stuff and so on, is the same.

            You are like the dude who wanted to talk about covid and then said he doesn’t believe in aids. Thats the signifier that there is a lack of a fundamental understanding or knowledge. It doesn’t make sense talking to you. You are a waste of time. I want you to know that.

            • The Dank Memegician @thelemmy.club
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              11 hours ago

              You and I both know why you are avoiding answering the question.

              You arnt fooling anyone with your ad hominem attacks.

              Be honest, you’re the kid who took his ball and went home the moment he started losing growing up huh? You know, the kid no one wanted to play with because he thought being a pandantic contrarian was a personality.

              Don’t worry, you dont have to answer.

              Its obvious.