I once had an elder coworker who said all the dinosaurs died in Noah’s great flood. I’d try reasoning with him but ultimately it was way more fun to ask him if god could create a rock that he couldn’t lift.
I think with people so entrenched in a silly opinion its way more fun to identify their most absurd belief and mock them relentlessly for it. I think for flat earthers its “so where does the air and water go when it falls off?”
I used to work with a guy who was also a Methodist pastor. Most of our conversations were perfectly normal and fine, but every once in a while he would be like, “So where do you think the government is hiding the nephilim fossils?”
Or ask if round earth is a massive conspiracy, what’s the angle? How does getting people to believe in a flat earth rather than a round one serve an agenda to the point where even a simple test that could prove the flatness always “goes wrong”? And if they say that the experimenters get threatened or something, why do they generally remain as confused flat earthers afterwards? If they were going to be threatened, why half-ass it and let them continue pushing flat earth instead of making them change sides?
I tend to find people who are a bit crazy/conspiracy brained tend to easily accept other people’s motives as being insane as their own reasoning.
Similar to how one can’t logic themselves into a position they fought against logic to get into, I don’t think people can usually empathize their way out of a position they fought against empathy to get into.
Imo that’s why ridicule is maybe more effective even though it will entrench some of them. The conspiracy aspect is hardest to explain with raw quantity though. Its like “there are like 10-20 million people in america who interface with NASA and plane pilots and like 200 million americans who interact with airlines and can vouch for every flight path, you think all these people are all in cahoots?” Because getting like 10 people to all show up a job and work together on a day is tough business. Getting 10,000 million+ together to play an elaborate prank for 500 years would cost more than the GDP of planet earth.
evolution doesnt contradict the Bible
The Bible says Earth and humans were created in 7 days
but those are 7 days for God, and we dont know how long a day is for God, and it was written before the 24 hour system
There’s people out there that think everything written in the King James version of the bible are literally true and allegories do not exist. A day is 24 hours to them. A year is 365 days. Nothing is ever lost in translation or merely a human trying to put words to something they don’t fully understand.
They refuse to comprehend that it could be any other way.
Was the bible written for god to read, or for humans to read? If it was written for humans, it could have benefited from using human units instead of undefined god units.
How do we know which parts are allegory and which parts are true? Whatever suits you at the time?
How do you know the canonical catholic interpretation is correct? Because some guy said so? Even if some guy was “officially” entrusted with that task, how do we know he didn’t make mistakes?
How do we verify any of it?
How do you know islam is false? Some guy said it’s true. That’s not enough for you anymore?
What about mormonism? That guy had magic rocks. Is that any more or less ridiculous than a talking bush?
multiple people over the courses of their entire lives studied the Bible, became priests or brothers or sisters and spent years researching interpretations.
I once had an elder coworker who said all the dinosaurs died in Noah’s great flood. I’d try reasoning with him but ultimately it was way more fun to ask him if god could create a rock that he couldn’t lift.
I think with people so entrenched in a silly opinion its way more fun to identify their most absurd belief and mock them relentlessly for it. I think for flat earthers its “so where does the air and water go when it falls off?”
I used to work with a guy who was also a Methodist pastor. Most of our conversations were perfectly normal and fine, but every once in a while he would be like, “So where do you think the government is hiding the nephilim fossils?”
Or ask if round earth is a massive conspiracy, what’s the angle? How does getting people to believe in a flat earth rather than a round one serve an agenda to the point where even a simple test that could prove the flatness always “goes wrong”? And if they say that the experimenters get threatened or something, why do they generally remain as confused flat earthers afterwards? If they were going to be threatened, why half-ass it and let them continue pushing flat earth instead of making them change sides?
I tend to find people who are a bit crazy/conspiracy brained tend to easily accept other people’s motives as being insane as their own reasoning.
Similar to how one can’t logic themselves into a position they fought against logic to get into, I don’t think people can usually empathize their way out of a position they fought against empathy to get into.
Imo that’s why ridicule is maybe more effective even though it will entrench some of them. The conspiracy aspect is hardest to explain with raw quantity though. Its like “there are like 10-20 million people in america who interface with NASA and plane pilots and like 200 million americans who interact with airlines and can vouch for every flight path, you think all these people are all in cahoots?” Because getting like 10 people to all show up a job and work together on a day is tough business. Getting 10,000 million+ together to play an elaborate prank for 500 years would cost more than the GDP of planet earth.
evolution doesnt contradict the Bible The Bible says Earth and humans were created in 7 days but those are 7 days for God, and we dont know how long a day is for God, and it was written before the 24 hour system
There’s people out there that think everything written in the King James version of the bible are literally true and allegories do not exist. A day is 24 hours to them. A year is 365 days. Nothing is ever lost in translation or merely a human trying to put words to something they don’t fully understand.
They refuse to comprehend that it could be any other way.
Was the bible written for god to read, or for humans to read? If it was written for humans, it could have benefited from using human units instead of undefined god units.
How do we know which parts are allegory and which parts are true? Whatever suits you at the time?
Imagine if we had a bunch of people who spent their entire life pondering and reading the Bible to give us official interpretations
We do. And they all interpret it differently. How do you know which one is correct?
The Catholic Church
How do you know the canonical catholic interpretation is correct? Because some guy said so? Even if some guy was “officially” entrusted with that task, how do we know he didn’t make mistakes?
How do we verify any of it?
How do you know islam is false? Some guy said it’s true. That’s not enough for you anymore?
What about mormonism? That guy had magic rocks. Is that any more or less ridiculous than a talking bush?
multiple people over the courses of their entire lives studied the Bible, became priests or brothers or sisters and spent years researching interpretations.
Islam breaks the natural law
Mormonism deviates from the true church