• Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca
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    13 hours ago

    I think I need to apologize to some old relatives who were spouting “both sides” conspiracy theories.

    It’s not that I didn’t think rich pricks were doing rich prick things. I knew about some of these groups, I knew about secret meetings, secret rituals, handshakes, phrases, even odd religious things. I knew people band together to push their own interests, I know people work in the dark.

    But I dismissed a lot of it as probably mundane and probably blown out of proportion. These days I try not to catastrophize, but I also try not to trust any reassurances at face value. I try to check everything I can. The more I look into various groups, the more corruption I see. While we’re expected to keep our toes in line. We’ve been lied to a lot. And lied to about being lied to.

    I’m tired, boss.

    • architect@thelemmy.club
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      5 hours ago

      It’s good you came around on this.

      It’s frustrating because the people saying what was going on had proof, and people like you only had vibes.

      It’s the process that denies victims their justice.

      I hope more people come to understand this.

      • Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca
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        5 hours ago

        Absolutely. And now, to make it worse, I feel intimidated to talk about it as well, because —how do you even talk to someone about any of this? When others talked to me about anything of the sort I dismissed it as silly. And to be sure, I do still think there are a lot of silly people down these rabbit holes, but same as anything else where something is being hidden, the craziest person will be put up as a poster child to deter further looking into it.

        I’m glad Wired put out an article on this. Puts more eyes on something and shifts the needle a bit.

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      7 hours ago

      some are, some arent. All of them have learned how to assume unquestioned power in any situation and to be the center of attention in the room. They arent like the rest of us. Massive money and extraordinary privilege will do that to anyone. And if any of them seem to have humility they are faking it.

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      17 hours ago

      I know your comment was tongue-in-cheek, but I’ll say it anyway: wisdom is not the same as intelligence, and though they are probably very smart individuals (most of them), they are terribly unwise.

      Foolish, not dumb.

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        In a lot of cases they’re really only good at manipulating other people into giving them money, but otherwise not particularly intelligent. They’re highly skilled at that one thing, and basically nothing else.

        It’s that Bruce Lee quote; “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.” Except instead of practicing kicks they practice lying.

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        17 hours ago

        I guess what I mean by dumb is that it’s surprising they even kept it a secret as long as they did based off their incompetence. Supervillains in cartoons are better at hiding their secret societies.

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          They are out here on alts fully discussing in the open taking over the world and they aren’t subtle about who they are when they do it. Is just that everyone has believed anything the media says and the media simply does this: “hey x’s alt. Are you x?” X:”no” media:”and we have confirmation it is indeed not x even though it has a cult where they voice chat and it’s clearly x’s voice while simultaneously always knowing every detail about x’s life down to the minute.”

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            I mean, the only reason we know the specific groups is because of that.

            It’s been glaringly obvious for decades that the elite have been controlling things from behind the curtains. It wasn’t even particularly hidden. Hell, The Wizard of Oz literally had a guy running the Emerald City from behind a curtain, and that was released in 1939.

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    17 hours ago

    The Obamas produced an apocalypse movie wherein a guy gives a monologue that there isn’t actually a global cabal in charge and that is scarier than if there was a cabal ‘cause it means nobody has a plan now nor when the world goes to shit.

    So it seems there is a cabal, but they’re not that deep or mysterious and are just male selfishness distilled.

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    19 hours ago

    I don’t think that’s new. I mean, of course they should rule the world, their money means they’re superior people who should have way, way more than one vote each. Democracy is for chumps.

  • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip
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    17 hours ago

    Anyone else remember those Bilderberg Group conspiracy theory from way back when? This makes them look like the League of Justice to Thiel’s Legion of Doom.

    (Not to say I endorse rich cunts getting together and crafting global policy in secret without any input from the public, but fuck Thiel.)