Arch users have the latest softwares, Debian users have LMDE. Is it real that Arch users are rich and have mid level PCs and is always up to date? Well they don’t have Mint(debian edition). Dont need to ask if anyone using it tho cuz its Mint and Debian edition of a distro.
My streambox/shizbox machine (a Orange pi 5 MAX w/ 16Gb of ram) has Armbian “bleeding edge”/sway (Which is basically “Rolling release Debian”, and no DE) – everything just werks. It’s as easy as “Install packages, copy .dotfiles in, run, done.”. With those things said… yes, I am using Debian. And yes, I also has the latest packages – without breaking things apart. And no, I don’t want to go back to x11.
Is it real that Arch users are rich and have mid level PCs and is always up to date?
I do have a powerful desktop running Arch (or rather EndeavourOS with the EndeavourOS packages slowly removed over time), but also a 15 year old netbook. There’s plenty of up-to-date lightweight software in Arch repos, you don’t need to limit yourself to old software.
Also it’s not like a new version of GIMP is suddenly going to use double the memory if you use the same tools in it.
The biggest issue for the netbook is web browsing, but that’s just about web pages being resource hogs nowadays. uBlock Origin and NoScript help massively. Trying to use an old web browser is IMHO a terrible idea - you’ll end up with broken pages and a massive pile of security vulnerabilities.
Op, did you have a stroke?
No.
Good to know
You can install Cinnamon on Arch though.
You can also add gears to a computer. Maybe they prefer stable over rolling? Or don’t like the diy approach of Arch?
You can also add gears to a computer
sudo apt install mesa-utils
Yeah, very close though, but you didnt get LMDE fully.
Don’t get me wrong, I used Mint for a year, it’s what helped me quit macOS for good. It’s a great distro, where you don’t have to delve into advanced Linux topics just to get things working, which is what kept me as just a visitor to Linux for years prior. But once I did get the hang of Linux, I was drawn to Arch’s philosophy of installing only what you want (* systemd being the glaring exception). Then I got converted to tiling WMs. So now there’s very little about LMDE that appeals to me. I’d still recommend it to anyone though.
Arch was my first choice, but it forces you to keep up to date and use the latest cutting edge software, its like Windows. So I am researching Debian, Mint, and Fedora instead.
Arch was my first choice
Could you please elaborate on that? Like, how did it become your first choice?
Ubuntu then Debian for lightweight then Arch, then still researching.
While I think hearing about the sequence is cool as well, I was actually more interested in the (in)direct motivation behind it. Like, how did Arch Linux (specifically) manage to pique your interest?
Yeah, if you have spotty internet service or are using a minimal data plan, that can be an important deciding factor. You can leave an Arch system without updating too, as long as you don’t install a new package.
Been using it for two years on my side business laptop, works awesome. Plug and play functionality with most the apps I need, and rock stable.
Yep, LMDE is everything good from Debian coupled with the great usability and good defaults from Mint.
I mean that’s just cinnamon with a debian backend instead of the regular ubuntu.
Yeah, but still fake. Tried fake ubuntu on debian and feels fake.
Are you having a stroke or something? Do you need help?
Looking at OP’s writing pattern (and the smaller details of their screenshot), English likely isn’t their first language. They probably meant to say something else.
I can’t read their mind, but I think maybe they were trying to say that they experienced some friction with some kind of setup they had.
Or I’m having a stroke. I have a family history of that.
No, I’m fine.
Fake? As is? Vibe coded? Or just old style UI? Have you ever tried stuff like XFCE or even TWM?
Man I feel old
I tried TWM for a hot minute a couple years ago, thinking I’d be so cool for having the absolute minimal GUI possible. But the config syntax was impenetrable for me. I do still miss the left click root menu concept. I wish wl-roots compositors would implement that.
Labwc allows for all kinds of menus on root. You can freely define a menu and open it on a click action.
True, I forgot about that. I should amend my statement to say I wish Hyprland or sway would implement it. I like Labwc as well, but it took me half a day to write UL, UR, LL, and LR quarter tile window shortcuts.
Tried xfce. Original, and looks like MacOS.
Interesting take. Xfce started off as a CDE clone.
Why LMDE? Cinnamon is available in the upstream Debian repos…
Yes and no. While some parts like the Cinnamon shell itself are available in Debian some environment tools (e.g. xed) are not available.
I don’t remember exactly whats also missing but in my personal experience the Cinnamon desktop on LMDE is way better and mor polished than on plain Debian.
Its about sending the message: fuck ubuntu, w debian to the mint maintainers
Dunno, Its Mint that I want.
Can you make the taskbar larger in Mint?
I personally don’t see the benefit over regular Mint since it removes snaps anyways. And the newer software from Ubuntu is nice
I don’t think there’s much of a package up-to-date difference between LMDE and Linux Mint. Both Debian and Ubuntu LTS are released every two years. Ubuntu in even years, Debian in odd years. So every year they trade being more up to date.
Main difference now is that Linux Mint has access to Ubuntu’s hardware ennoblement stack.
