What an absolute shitshow

  • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 hours ago

    GNU Coreutils have worked very well for so long so replacing it is totally pointless unless memory safety has crippled the project somehow till now.

    Also I really hate that project for another reason - License

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      7 hours ago

      Yep. And more distros support so theres more incentive to fix any issues that have popped up. Plus theres more c devs in the world than rust.

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      10 hours ago

      Rust is faster and easier to develop in than C. It’s also safer.

      What’s wrong with the uutils license?

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        10 hours ago

        Rust is absolutely not faster or easier than C. It’s safer but that’s it.

        The issue with the rust utils license is that its MIT. Which many people see as vastly inferior to GPL. This is a very big deal to people who believe in the GPL.

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          9 hours ago

          It is definitely easier.

          Don’t try and tell me cargo is not easier than fucking around with the C/CPP build slop I’ve had to screw around with over the years.

          The coreutils license is bullshit but let’s not pretend languages have not improved in 50 years.

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            9 hours ago

            I think it depends on the project, when writing cp you’re not really messing around with libraries so good ol make is fine

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            8 hours ago

            Yeah, the only real issue I have with the “rewrite it in Rust” approach is the absolute plague of permissive licensing. It is much easier to write safe, correct code in Rust.

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          9 hours ago

          Rust is absolutely not faster or easier than C. It’s safer but that’s it.

          Depends on what you mean by “easier”. It is easier to write safe code in Rust.

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            9 hours ago

            Depends on what you do, really.

            Dangers of this project:

            • compatibility in edge-cases
            • experts of their tool vs. jokel of all
            • maturity of the code
            • scope creep
            • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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              9 hours ago

              No, it does not depend on what I do. In Rust it is by definition easier to write safe code than in C.

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                9 hours ago

                Sure does. If the tool was used for 50 years and 1000s times checked (also by criminals), your reimplementarion will not be safer for a whole while, memory safety or not. Especially with that huge scope.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Ehm, thats not what I said? Let try me again: If you write code in C and in Rust, both spend about 5 years time and check them equally often, with equally amount of experience, then it is by default easier to write the safe code in Rust. Because Rust is safe by default.

                  If you compare a new project to an old project, that has nothing to do with my statement.