google search results are still kind of useful especially for non-english language queries, anyone knows a good alternative?

searxng also doesn’t really seem to work these days…

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    “internet indexer” should really be a government / EU / UN sponsored public utility thing. And then you have front ends that can improve the search query and filter and sort the results.

    I don’t know how much it would cost / how large a data center it would take to cache the web pages like google does. But there is just no reason to have so much wealth / advertising drain from the public for such a fundamental thing.

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        “Just pickup an old data centre on the cheap and slap Linux on it”

        The next step in selfhosting.

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    The modern internet is getting filthier by the day. Gone are the days where independent software used to be a thing I suppose.

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    Duckduckgo is surprisingly okay, even with non-english queries by using the region selector (your experience may vary)

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      Isn’t it just Bing with privacy? Or do they use their own tweeks or something? It’s what I use nowadays since google never finds anything i search for

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        DDG is an US based company. They will comply to all the patriot act bullshit and pipeline all your searches to the NSA…

        If they really cared about privacy they wouldn’t be based in the US.

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    All of this when you get the super excellent Kagi for 10 dollars, from an actual search company that values privacy.

    Its exactly what everyone wants but no, can’t pay 10 dollars I guess. :)

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      from an actual search company that values privacy.

      California company obliged by FVEY? While I appreciate their efforts, American based companies kind of have a history of abandoning their privacy-respecting ways once subpoenaed.

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        To be honest, this is one of those times where I would say that it’s not that bad. Can’t expect a company to outright violate the laws of the country they’re registered in, you need to be friends with Trump to do that. If they keep their shit away from all the corpo vultures and only comply with direct subpoenas, it’s probably the best we can hope for.

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          yes but that’s kind of the point. I don’t want to deal with a company which is beholden to the law of gangsters. I might not hold it against them but also it is a huge competitive disadvantage for a privacy based product.

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            So, if I can choose between a company that fucks me over with their search ranking, sells my data and still tries to present me bought ads as actual results, and is required to provide all this information to a corrupt goverment; versus a company that minimizes the amount of collected data, so they don’t have to hand over so many information while being supoenad, I choose the 2nd option

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            I fear that this all-or-nothing attitude brings more harm than good. If leads to the thinking that if nothing is perfect nothing should be done anyway. More than once people were saying to me that they’ve read that they can get your data anyway so there is no difference between a firefox with adblock on linux and google chrome on windows 11 with all the trackers active.
            And this is exactly the attitude that those who are selling our data want us to have.

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              It’s not all or nothing it’s just America isn’t a trustworthy place to hold anything you don’t want accessed by a corrupt government. I wouldn’t use a Russian service, I wouldn’t use an American service.

              I mean the real answer is if you want privacy it needs to be trustless.

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                Well, in this case we’re talking about websearch, and there is no non-american websearch, so you don’t have many options.