I’ll just provide my own example: my homelab consists of 6 Kubernetes nodes placed across the country. Some differ by ISP, some are placed in different cities, one is hosted on a cloud provider. Basically it’s a very cheap variant of geo-replicating my workloads.
Two of these nodes are visible from the Internet and have a static IP address; one node also has an IPv6 address. Each node hosts an authoritative DNS server (CoreDNS) for my personal domain pootis.network; and the .network TLD has glue records which point to IPs of these two nodes. This is a classic “self-hosted DNS” scenario.
Here’s an excerpt from my zonefile so you can understand the setup better:
$ORIGIN pootis.network.
$TTL 300
@ SOA ns1.pootis.network. admin.pootis.network. (
2026082001
1200
300
1209600
300
)
; Nameservers and glue records
@ NS ns1.pootis.network.
@ NS ns2.pootis.network.
ns1 A 178.44.116.85
ns2 A 91.219.150.30
ns2 AAAA 2a06:dd00:1:4::4189
This 5-record block (NS/A/AAAA) is mirrored into the .network zone by my domain registrar (plus DS for DNSSEC but that’s another thing).
As such, my DNS becomes fully independent - and, in theory, if one of my externally-facing nodes breaks, let’s say ns1, then DNS resolvers all over the world (forwarders, recursive, and such) will fall back to ns2, and everything will keep working. Kubernetes will also reorganize the pod placement so all my workloads are available again after a slight downtime.
That would have been great, if it worked as described, but apparently, after one nameserver in my zone fails, then the resolvers… just give up? Let’s say ns1 failed but ns2 is working. The parent zone still points to both nameservers. My external resource records (websites and other stuff) at this point would have already been auto-reconfigured by a custom k8s controller to point to the IP addresses of the node that hosts ns2. Simplifying: the entire world basically sees this after ns1 fails and after TTL caches expire:
; all of this has very low TTL, 5 minutes or so
@ NS ns1.pootis.network. ; from .network
@ NS ns2.pootis.network. ; from .network
ns1 A 178.44.116.85 ; broken. Either from .network glue or from my auth DNS
ns2 A 91.219.150.30 ; either from .network glue or from my auth DNS
ns2 AAAA 2a06:dd00:1:4::4189 ; same
; my-website A 178.44.116.85 ; does not appear because ns1 is broken- my LB already removed it from the set
my-website A 91.219.150.30 ; fronted by a pair of CNAMEs due to loadbalancing but still
my-website AAAA 2a06:dd00:1:4::4189 ; same
But even if I query 1.1.1.1 directly for my-website’s record, it just doesn’t work most of the time because the resolver pins itself to ns1 which is currently failing, or it selects ns1 and does not even care to try ns2.
To be precise: some resolver implementations DO fall back to ns2 as expected, but most of them just pin themselves to ns1 and then outright refuse to resolve the records in my zone.
And there’s actually no reasonable way out, as far as I can see:
- moving my DNS infra somewhere else (CloudFlare, for example) is unacceptable since I would like for my homelab to be as independent as practically possible;
- anycasting, or running a fully-fledged BGP AS is also impossible because that costs a lot of money and I’d like for my homelab to fit into a $10/month budget with room to spare;
- “live-patching” the NS and glue records in the parent zone (
.network), to keep up with the set of my working nodes, is possible, but very unwieldy and somewhat hard to accomplish.
There’s a lot of custom machinery that keeps my workloads running and accessible after a node failure, but all of this becomes completely moot when authoritative DNS is the bottleneck.
Has anyone been running a similar stack and encountered this problem? I’m aware that the answer is usually “host your DNS at CloudFlare” or “use the registrar’s DNS infra” but still…


I actually already have a local DNS resolver… well, sort of: most of my cluster’s internal services, such as Vaultwarden and other stuff, are available only over an in-cluster IKEv2 VPN.
What I mean is, I have to connect to the VPN first, which pushes a Configuration Payload to my IKEv2 client, and that payload contains a DNS server IP, and that DNS server (exposed by a Kubernetes Service) serves a custom “internal” zone (
.int.pootis.network), and proxies everything else either to k8s coredns, or to upstream DNS forwarders.Okay, that explanation may have been somewhat complicated (it sounded simpler in my head) but the end result is that I can resolve and reach stuff like
lemmy.int.pootis.network(my Lemmy frontend) only while connected to the in-cluster VPN. It is completely hidden from external users (no CT log record, no external DNS record, and only proxyable by internal Traefik instance).The issue only occurs with my externally-facing DNS, which is needed to, for example, to reach my Lemmy backend instance (lemmy.pootis.network) and the pictrs deployment. But yeah, internal DNS works perfectly for me and it easily survives a node failure.
Basically my internal DNS zonefile is configured like this (it should be easier to read than my explanation):
coredns_config: zoneFiles: - filename: int.pootis.network.zone domain: int.pootis.network contents: | $ORIGIN int.pootis.network. $TTL 300 @ SOA ns.int.pootis.network. admin.pootis.network. ( 2026082001 1200 300 1209600 300 ) @ NS ns.int.pootis.network. ns AAAA {{ k8s_dns_ipv6 }} ns A {{ k8s_dns_ipv4 }} vault CNAME internaltraefik.internaltraefik.svc.{{ k8s_cluster_domain }}. cinny CNAME internaltraefik.internaltraefik.svc.{{ k8s_cluster_domain }}. grafana CNAME internaltraefik.internaltraefik.svc.{{ k8s_cluster_domain }}. stalwart CNAME internaltraefik.internaltraefik.svc.{{ k8s_cluster_domain }}. lemmy CNAME internaltraefik.internaltraefik.svc.{{ k8s_cluster_domain }}. mail CNAME stalwart.stalwart.svc.{{ k8s_cluster_domain }}. webmail CNAME internaltraefik.internaltraefik.svc.{{ k8s_cluster_domain }}. ; ACME challenges ; int.pootis.network + *.int.pootis.network _acme-challenge CNAME 1ca12d2c-8034-4a09-a940-dc59bd4f38d8.acme-dns.pootis.network. ; mail.int.pootis.network _acme-challenge.mail CNAME d175b66d-909f-46ba-8572-636ebc235d4c.acme-dns.pootis.network.Interesting, that’s much more sophisticated than my setup (though to be fair, I host my services on a rented VPS instead of home)!
Could still set up a recursive resolver for external DNS, but I guess that wouldn’t help other people who use a bad resolver. Tricky situation.
Yeah, the issue is that people’s resolvers are wildly different and I guess some of them do not cater to weird and wacky self-hosting setups (most people just use anycast highly-available DNS, usually provided by a registrar or by some other company).
I had a hunch that resolvers break because one of my nodes does not have a public IPv6 address: meaning,
178.44.116.85, acts as NSns1. It has IPv6 connectivity but no external IPv6;91.219.150.30and IPv62a06:dd00:1:4::4189, acts as NSns2.If node4 decides to break, then
ns2becomes unavailable - but since resolvers can see thatns1does not have an IPv4 address, and since everyone knows that IPv6 is better because 6 is greater than 4, then these resolvers would always preferns2, even though it’s clearly down.This could be solved by asking my ISP to set up a static IPv6 prefix for me (they already provide static IPv4), except my ISP does not do that, unfortunately. I could also rent another VPS (so I would have two VPS’es, giving me some resilience from downtimes) but that means extra $$$… anyway, I guess I should probably test the IPv6-preference hypothesis first and then act on the results.