Commiserating

Also, just to follow up on this, it’s for the largest part not scientists that got us into this mess, whatever in particular that may be. The world would be much better off if people had more trust in science. That’s too much to demand though it seems, especially from boomers. So here we are, with populists and companies messing stuff up and people like you blaming scientists for the results.

i don’t like trusting scientists in fact. trusting scientists is how we got into this mess. people let themselves be manipulated by scientific results. people need to think for themselves. yes, that includes not believing certain scientific results, but IMO it’s better to deny a scientific result that I dislike and do not understand than trusting scientists that spent their entire lives researching that particular aspect of the universe

by the way i’m not a science denialist

Can’t make that shit up.

Aaaahhhhh, you’re one of those… Good to know. Yeah, your reply makes sense then. Also thanks for telling me early in the discussion that you’re just a science denialist, then we don’t need to waste precious time with a discussion about things that you’ll just disregard at will anyway.

welllll i say that’s a reaaaly sketchy and irrational way to look at things.

Okay? You be you, I guess. I mean, stupid physicist eggheads, what do they know?

Since the 1950s, it has been conjectured that quantum fluctuations of the spacetime metric might make the familiar notion of distance inapplicable below the Planck length.[23][37][22] This is sometimes expressed by saying that “spacetime becomes a foam at the Planck scale”.[38] It is possible that the Planck length is the shortest physically measurable distance, since any attempt to investigate the possible existence of shorter distances, by performing higher-energy collisions, would result in black hole production.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units#Planck_length

Same is true for the Planck time, although the English Wikipedia is oddly blank for that one: there can be no space or time smaller than that within the physics that we have come up with.

I think it’s (1 Planck length / 1 Planck time). If you take the smallest distance that exists and divide it by the shortest amount of time that can pass, you have exactly c.

Love it. But:

But you see, they’re on me, they are not my family my employee

That’s not the point. Combustion engines with too much mileage have no resale value either, but that’s not the point, too. Electric cars usually give you easy ways to check for battery health, if anything it’s much easier to assess the state of a car for electric ones. This is about nobody wanting to be associated with musk.