Digitalprimate

~Don’t kill spider friends please~

Yeah alas the subreddit for it did a lot of the heavy lifting for me - they took apart every study (I helped) and had some good sidebar (or was it pinned, been so long I cannot remember) info to counter the “dumb reactionary shit.” I am pretty sure the sub got baninated, but I haven’t been back to reddit since I rage quit after the API debacle.

When I first started vaping in 2011 (after smoking two packs a day for decades), there were a lot of solid, research-based web boards, but I think social media killed them, as it did so much.

I am someone who used to do medical research for a lot of money. I’ve interviewed chairs of FDA committees, trial designers, and active trial leads on phase III (mostly) research in pharma and biologics. I still have access to PupMed via my old friends.

My guy/gal/nonbinary pal: pls see the references in this https://medicpro.london/2025/05/08/vaping-and-popcorn-lung-separating-fact-from-fiction/ Diacetyl has been widely banned since 2014 in all but the most trash Chinese vape juice, and quality vendors never used it in the first place.

Also the supposed cases of popcorn come from one source. Some dude in California who cut his cannabis juice with it, and in every single case the kids that got sick were using his juice in vape pens, not actually vaping. It’s Friday night here and I’d rather not track the story down but if you really want it I’ll find it.

As a former life long smoker, vaping (which is the front line treatment for cessation in the UK) saved my life. Now, however, the shops pushing disposable vapes with super high nicotine salts on to kids - which is illegal almost everywhere - they need to die in a fire. The kids don’t get hooked on "vape;’ they get hooked on nicotina because those damn things are the equivalent of smoking two or three regular cigarets in one puff.

Data? No, because there is none. And I have read every.single.study. They are all fucked in some way or another whether it’s methodology or the stats or the sample size/composition. Not a single real in vivo study. None. There is exactly one researcher in Greece doing decent work, and that’s it. I took a career change from my previous and now present career and worked in pharma and biotech research.