I was going to say there’s also the option of in-between but that is dependant on clothing, but you beat me to it 😅

You’ve convinced me that it’s reasonable that it could effect the outcome. But in that case, we’re averaging out a large variance in size, which as you said (and I agree) could change the outcome dramatically.

This was my original problem with the “anatomically correct” part of the statement. There is no “anatomically correct” male or female, only approximations. This effectively excludes people at the extremes of physical characteristics from these safety tests

so I’m making the fairly safe assumption they put dummies in various different seating arrangements

The source doesn’t use data from crash test dummies but from real life crashes. So we can’t take seating arrangements for granted if it could meaningfully effect the numbers.

The stats apparently originate from the US government, so it’s going to be a pretty big sample size that should average out any differences in seating position.

The sample size is irrelevant if cultural factors exist that could skew the results. Cultural factors like men are more commonly taxi/Uber/bus drivers, men are more likely to drive with their partner as a passenger than the inverse, etc.

I don’t think there are really any conclusive after stats as the product was only introduced to the market a couple of years ago

That’s a fair point, I don’t expect there would be enough data for anything conclusive.

there’s a correlation with male safety improving with advances in the crash test process that aren’t reflected equivalently with women’s safety

That would be an interesting read. I’ll have a look for it.

Ok, I hadn’t considered the differently shaped pelvis and rib cage so I’ll concede that it makes sense.

Even still, to my mind (again, not educated in this area) the breasts themselves are not going to be a factor in terms of a car crash assuming seatbelts are correctly worn

I appreciate your effort to find that data but it doesn’t really address any of my original questions.

Also, from what you’ve quoted at least, there is no differentiation between drivers vs passengers.

Your data absolutely shows there is a problem, it just doesn’t show that the problem is the lack of an “anatomically correct female crash test dummy”.

Has an “anatomically correct female crash test dummy” actually helped? What even is an “anatomically correct female crash test dummy” and how does it encompass all women’s body types in a way that the, assumedly anatomically correct male crash test dummy wouldn’t accommodate?

I am absolutely uneducated on this but to my uneducated mind this sounds like getting riled up over a non-issue.