We all got our own shit and the world would be a better place if people could just not be assholes to each other about the little things

If only everyone would get that. Thanks!

I think giving any terms create a divide (someone in rainbow club, and someone not). If everyone is in the club, then why even call it a club, that is like whole earth. I generally would prefer if we move away from any terms at all, and just stop asking about gender and sex

that was not the part of chain i wanted to refer to. Essentially, my native tongue (or culture in which I was raised), there is (was) no difference between sex and gender, as in, there were not separate concepts. What you guys would call a gender (and this is also partly based on interaction in this chain, where I even ask what does being a male even mean) - users preference of pronoun, or attire, etc is what I called orientation in my op (again, I also said in op that I do not know if that is correct term for it, and it was not).

the paragraph you have highlighted was the only part where I refered sex as sex (the one associated with your partner/s). Other than that paragraph, I mostly (I am guessing here, again, for me concept of gender is new and still fuzzy) meant gender.

I would apologise again for mmy lack of knowledge on this stuff, and this post has helped me understand gender better.

hey jubliant, do you remember me? Greetings! How are you doing? (In case you do not, we had personal chat)

I consider the identity obsession of Gen Z to be mostly narcissistic self-regard. It reflects our society’s rampant individualism, where kids have become a lifestyle choice and pampered like fragile consumer objects. I don’t have any answers about how to fix any of this. Indeed I’m something of an individualist myself.

this seems a bit to harsh. As I see, most people are overly stimulated, this just makes them react a bit more visibly. This is also because of social media. Some news from other side of globe that you may have never got earlier, or weeks later, you now get that in minutes, and similarly, the friction to post is also very low, so most people feel like “raising voice”. Though I do not treat raising voices online to be equivalent to in person voice raising but that is a separate discussion. Maybe individualism is on a rise, because our lives now do not depend much on other people (it still does, now you just do not have to interact with them), so you do not hear about their problems or perspective.

Sorry, but am I known? I thought I was a huge noobie lemmy user.

this is the comment chain - https://lemmings.world/post/28743360/16394388

thanks!

Aye, Aye sire!!!

I think what’s important is that we’re willing to learn.

(mutilating the legendary quote) “You should keep learning things from other nations. If you stop doing so, your knowledge gets stagnant and stale” - Uncle Iroh

If someone’s trying hard to pass as a gender that doesn’t match their sex, having someone misgender them feels pretty awful.

understandable. I can see that someone who might have past trauma, or something alike, it would only sprinkle salt on wounds. In my case, I am basically a slowpoke.

I am sorry to report commander, but I have no kills yet. I am definitely not an ace.

SO we atleast got the “IND” part common.

I have almost never checked any other user’s profile. SOmehow feels creepy.

Wasn’t throwing shade.

No shade taken. I was just acknowledging my priviledge. We sometimes forget that we get a lot of things, which we think are natural and everyone has, until you meet people who do not. And it never hurts to be reminded that what you got is something not yet “normal” for everyone.

Having a voice that doesn’t match your gender identity is a great example of why you might want to tell someone your pronouns the first time you talk to them, though (if appropriate).

I have almost never felt the need to do so, in fact, I do get a bit amused by it. As I said, I do not have a notion of male/female. If someone considers me feminine, I do not feel any different. It maybe a mental thing, or again, a by product of my upbringing.

English is a pretty shitty language to learn, especially as a second language.

I used to somewhat dislike english for being confusing, but it is effectively my first language. I have read/written English more than any other languages combined (4 others) and also spoken it the most/ 2nd most. I find it good enough. Especially, since it’s lingua franca in academia

thank you, hearing from a person of GSM definitely gives me a better perspective.

but usually there is a ‘prefer not to say’ option.

I do not like that option (it kinda feels like hiding a crime or something). But where I live, most of the time, it is just male/female/others. That still feels harsh, and kinda in line of saying all other “gender minorities” but still feels a bit blunt.

If respecting a non-trans person’s gender would be doing the same things, to you, then sure

Pardon me, but I did not understand this sentence at all. Can you please elaborate (or eli5) it?

I am sorry, but it kinda because of the cultural non separation of these 2 concepts in my mother tongue. I did explain it a bit more in another comment

Thank you, you made many things clear. I have kinda used gender and sex kinda interchangably, because in my native tounge, there is no separation. Also, most people LGBTQIA+ representation in media here mostly focused on the sex part. What you refered to as gender in your reply, is what i refered to as “orientation” in my post, mostly because that is how I have understood geneder like that till today - How do you want to be addressed, and for example, how do you dress up.

You’ve probably never felt the need to do this because (as you state) you’re male and you identify as male and your outward appearance is male

I want to ask one more thing, I have never asked/thought of my gender. When you say “you identify as male”, I do not know what that means, what does it mean to identify as a male or female or something else. As I wrote above, in my native tounge, there is no separation.

so I’m going to assume you’ve never had anyone misgender you, but not everyone is so lucky - or privileged, you might say.

As I said, I understand that I am privileged. Though I have been misgendered, mostly because my voice is quite shrill, and people often confuse me of being feminine over phones.

I said India, because I am an Indian, and our government also does use whatsapp. In some way, our countries have some kinship

edit - I just checked context of replies, and you said wrong continent for brazil, but not for me, is it because I atleast got the continent right? if so, let me guess again, is your country in indian subcontinent, or south east asia in general?

India