Laws to be introduced this week include up to two years in prison for distributing, displaying or reciting prohibited phrases to harass or offend

  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    4 days ago

    Israel does did not have fair elections. The ultra-orthodox political elite were extremely privileged in Israel’s elections. Something like 15% of the population was responsible for an 80% share-by-weight of the electoral outcome.

    This has recently changed, so it’s expected that Israel’s next election (this year) will be more fair, and it’s likely that the ultra-orthodox faction will lose power. However, they know this quite well and are likely to try to use the war in some way to maintain their hold on power. Time will tell.

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      4 days ago

      If it is not rigged it is fair. Nice deflection from the fact that israelis keep voting for genocidal and pro colonization prime ministers. And since there is a lot of bad actors in lemmy I have to say the obvious, this do not justify killing innocents israeli civilians

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        4 days ago

        It is rigged though. You’re the one deflecting.

        this do not justify killing innocents israeli civilians

        That’s literally what “From the river to the sea means.” If you would just say that, we would be in agreement. But no, you deflect and accuse me of being a zionist because I say “ethnic cleansing is wrong no matter what side is doing it, and simply changing the hands of power between two genocidal organizations is not a viable solution.”

        • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
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          3 days ago

          Only if the likud are the ones saying it.

          We antizionists mean “from the river to the sea” as a call to liberate the entire country of Palestine, including at the bare minimum the right to return. The settlers can go back to where they came from or integrate. It’s not a call to kill every man, woman or child in the illegaly occupied areas that’s hasbara.

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            2 days ago

            The settlers can go back to where they came from or integrate.

            What about the ones who were born there, had no choice in the matter, and don’t have any other citizenship?

            And how does one “integrate” into a society governed by an organization committed to one’s extermination?

            It’s not a call to kill every man, woman or child

            It literally is though.

            • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
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              22 hours ago

              What about the ones who were born there, had no choice in the matter, and don’t have any other citizenship?

              That’s up to the people who’s land it is.

              And how does one “integrate” into a society governed by an organization committed to one’s extermination?

              No such palestinian organization exists.

              It literally is though.

              It literally isn’t.

        • mrdown@lemmy.world
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          4 days ago

          It is like saying that usa elections are rigged and not fair because lobbies and oligargh. Anyway Netenyahu is not an ultraorthodox and israel voted for that genocidal monster, israeli president is not either and said there is no innocent Gazans yet your trashy racist country still host him and you prefer to portray anti occupstion protesters as antisemite and pro genoice instead of condemning that visit

          • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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            4 days ago

            I’m not even Australian, so I don’t know why you’re blaming me for what their government is doing. All I did was provide context for the slogan in question on the OP article. That doesn’t mean I support Israel.

            This inane campism where “any criticism of one side implies support for the other” is so worn-out. Do better.

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              4 days ago

              I’m not even Australian, so I don’t know why you’re blaming me for what their government is doing. All I did was provide context for the slogan in question on the OP article. That doesn’t mean I support Israel.

              So stop defending Australians hypocrisy about Palestine and condemn the country bringing a war criminals to the country. All you did was to provide propaganda talking points .

              This inane campism where “any criticism of one side implies support for the other” is so worn-out. Do better.

              I have problem with your lies and hypocristy

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                3 days ago

                All you did was to provide propaganda talking points .

                Not even a little bit. All I did was provide historical context for the meaning of the slogan. It’s entirely possible to criticize Israel’s actions and western/anglophone governments’ support without perpetuating phrases that connote ethnic cleansing.

                I have problem with your lies and hypocristy

                If you can’t take this seriously, then neither will I…

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                  3 days ago

                  The context is that the slogan means different thing to different people but you want to make anti genocide people bad and justify more autoritarian laws to be added

                  . You think you are smart with your fake neutrality.

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                    3 days ago

                    You think you’re smart with your making up things I didn’t say.

                    If they just want to be anti-genocide, they should find a slogan that doesn’t advocate for ethnic cleansing. And if they don’t know the meaning of the slogan then they should be informed. That’s all I did, and you won’t stop being butthurt about it. Goodbye.