Good on you for taking a brave stance against people criticizing Americas monstrous war crimes. Don’t they know that condemning massacreing children makes you a “tool of Trump”
I expanded on it a bit more in the other reply chain, but the point is: The US has been an imperialist colonial state waging wars of aggression for basically all of its history; first it went after the native Americans (and Mexicans), then it set its sights on Latin America and now it’s trying to subjugate the whole post-colonial world. This means America has a very long track record doing absolutely evil shit abroad and Americans have a very long track record absolutely failing to stop (in many cases even cheering on) said evil shit. I could list out this evil shit, but any American who paid attention in highschool history should know what I’m talking about, and either way countries don’t occupy continents from shore to shore through the power of love. Point being: Given this long history and without evidence to the contrary, it’s downright folly to expect Americans to do much if anything to hold back their current war of aggression in Iran. Most will support it, most of the rest won’t do anything and the people trying to do something will fail because they’ll find no takers (or due to cowardice).
Clearly you didn’t check your notes very well if you think there’s been nothing significant achieved by American citizens against the government over the past 250 years. It’s fun to dunk on the US these days, but you should at least make valid criticisms.
if you think there’s been nothing significant achieved by American citizens against the government over the past 250 years.
As I very clearly said in my comment, I’m specifically talking about US foreign policy (aka imperialism), and historically the best Americans have been able to do is make their military leave after bombing everything to the ground. Maybe you have a different idea but I don’t consider Iraq or Vietnam to be success stories for the American public, and again those are the very best Americans have been able to do.
To no effect if the last checks notes 250 years or US foreign policy are any indication.
As you clearly said in your comment, 250 years or US foreign policy.
There have also been a couple of world wars that the US has assisted in in the past 250 years that I would consider success stories, it wasn’t just Vietnam and Iraq.
Wtf that’s a typo. That should’ve been “250 of US foreign policy.”
There have also been a couple of world wars that the US has assisted in in the past 250 years that I would consider success stories, it wasn’t just Vietnam and Iraq.
How should getting into two particular wars on the other side of the world (the former of which a fight between equally shitty dipshits) convince me that Americans can stop their government from getting into wars on the other side of the world? The fact that you consider US entry into WWI to be a good thing (WWII being an exception, though with reservations) does nothing but prove my point; that was an elites’ war through and through.
To no effect if the last checks notes 250 years or US foreign policy are any indication.
You’re a tool of Trump is you’re here to divide people against Americans, and Americans against the world.
It’s what he wants. It’s what he needs.
He won’t get it, though. You will fail.
Good on you for taking a brave stance against people criticizing Americas monstrous war crimes. Don’t they know that condemning massacreing children makes you a “tool of Trump”
So you have no response to my argument and can only respond with ad hominem. Noted and fuck you.
It’s not as if you really posed an argument. You just vaguely gestured to over a hundred years as if that tells us anything at all.
Feel free to elaborate on more specific points.
I expanded on it a bit more in the other reply chain, but the point is: The US has been an imperialist colonial state waging wars of aggression for basically all of its history; first it went after the native Americans (and Mexicans), then it set its sights on Latin America and now it’s trying to subjugate the whole post-colonial world. This means America has a very long track record doing absolutely evil shit abroad and Americans have a very long track record absolutely failing to stop (in many cases even cheering on) said evil shit. I could list out this evil shit, but any American who paid attention in highschool history should know what I’m talking about, and either way countries don’t occupy continents from shore to shore through the power of love. Point being: Given this long history and without evidence to the contrary, it’s downright folly to expect Americans to do much if anything to hold back their current war of aggression in Iran. Most will support it, most of the rest won’t do anything and the people trying to do something will fail because they’ll find no takers (or due to cowardice).
Clearly you didn’t check your notes very well if you think there’s been nothing significant achieved by American citizens against the government over the past 250 years. It’s fun to dunk on the US these days, but you should at least make valid criticisms.
As I very clearly said in my comment, I’m specifically talking about US foreign policy (aka imperialism), and historically the best Americans have been able to do is make their military leave after bombing everything to the ground. Maybe you have a different idea but I don’t consider Iraq or Vietnam to be success stories for the American public, and again those are the very best Americans have been able to do.
As you clearly said in your comment, 250 years or US foreign policy.
There have also been a couple of world wars that the US has assisted in in the past 250 years that I would consider success stories, it wasn’t just Vietnam and Iraq.
Wtf that’s a typo. That should’ve been “250 of US foreign policy.”
How should getting into two particular wars on the other side of the world (the former of which a fight between equally shitty dipshits) convince me that Americans can stop their government from getting into wars on the other side of the world? The fact that you consider US entry into WWI to be a good thing (WWII being an exception, though with reservations) does nothing but prove my point; that was an elites’ war through and through.