• dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
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              11 hours ago

              Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you if you asked a baker to make a cake, did you make the cake?

              A hammer is a tool. If you told the hammer to build a house and it builds the house on its own, did you build the house?

              • The Dank Memegician @thelemmy.club
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                11 hours ago

                Im not avoiding the question. Im illustrating the logical conclusion of your argument.

                Can a hammer build a house on its own? You can tell a hammer to build a house until your blue in the face but it wont because its inanimate. It is not alive.

                If the “baker” in question is my oven that’s doing the baking then yes, I baked the cake.

                If the “baker” in question is another human that is using an oven to do the baking then no, I didn’t bake the cake.

                So either a human using an inanimate tool like AI to create something counts as the human making that thing and therefore ai art is art because it is made by a human using a tool

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                AI is its own living conscious individual self and the art it creates isnt made by the human telling it to make the art…in which case your argument is that AI is alive and the art it creates isnt art because ONLY humans can create art(animals and potential alien life be damned).

                So which is it. Is AI a tool used by humans or is it alive?

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                  11 hours ago

                  You avoided the question. You didn’t answer it directly but asked a counter question. This is avoiding to answer.

                  You can tell an oven to bake a cake until you are blue in the face but it won’t because it’s inanimate. It’s not alive.

                  You argument is flawed and falls apart the second you think about it.

                  You didn’t make art. Because making something includes making the thing. You told another entity to make something.

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                    10 hours ago

                    Now who’s avoiding.

                    First things first, my oven is voice activated. Point one, me.

                    So, just so we are clear here…your position is that AI is its own living entity and therefore NOT a tool.

                    Neat

                    If that’s the case then in your view, no. I didn’t make it. The “alive” ai I instructed to make it did.

                    In my view tho, the AI isnt alive and therefore is a tool I used to make the art…which means the only “flaw” in my argument is that you beleive AIs are alive.

                    So, when you gonna start advocating for AI rights? Or do you think AIs should stay enslaved to humanity?