Considering almost half Tasmanian adults are functionally illiterate that seems like One Nation is doing pretty poorly in their core demographic. Maybe if more mining kicks off in Tassie Gina will give enough fucks about the balance of power and buy some electorates for her sock puppet party.
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Hopefully they’re just LNP voters switching over. Like I’m basically voting Greens before ALP these days.
No argument here, so long as something goes towards keeping the racist scum out of power. Don’t follow the Yankee example.
Nationalism != racism
Racism = racism though.
And what you’re calling racism isn’t racism.
You’re clearly someone who knows nothing about Pauline Hanson other than that she wants lower immigration.
What policies of One Nation’s are racist?
One Nation themselves are racist. They barely have a policy in the first place, but as individuals they are overwhelmingly racist people.
Polls for PHON are above 25% nationally, so, sadly, this is below average.
Ehh it’s one thing to say you will vote with the rabid racists that are being legitimised by the mainstream mid cycle between elections. It’s another to vote that way at the ballot box.
Plus a significant proportion can intend to vote for the red headed freak all they want. It’s a bit more difficult when they have to remember the verbal instructions from the electoral worker, make it to a booth and remember how to write to manifest that desire.
Honestly, it’s the Sky News, Channel Nine, Facebook crowd that will buoy PHON up. The same people who will decry that the left have gone to far because trans people exist, who waffle on about death taxes as though they will have a big enough estate to be affected one way or another, and who talk about having to be economically responsible and living within our needs as a country while ignoring the Billions in corporate welfare and tax cuts for the rich. Fucking Idiots in other words, and yet their vote carries as much weight as mine or yours, its kinda disgusting really.
A 3 question civics test before you can vote would destroy whole blocs of voters in Australia. Just get them to identify how a progressive income tax works, which country is the biggest greenhouse gas emitter in the OECD, and which parts of the Miranda Rights apply to them, boom PHON gets a dozen votes across the whole country.
You guys never learn, do you?
Calling people racist simply because they want to focus on helping people here before importing more immigrants is ridiculous, and all it does is push more and more people towards what you mistakenly call “racism”.
You’re basically saying you don’t care if they can’t afford a house or groceries, and calling them racist for it.
Oh it’s you… Seriously, why do you think you can see Gina Reinharts lips twitching when Pauline talks. She’s a sock puppet. But we as a nation keep falling for the billionaire backed line about how the people even worse off than us are causing problems, not the ownership class. Plus she doesn’t fucking run the party with her name on it, it’s a bunch of political mercanaries who are just following the money. One Nations was a dysfunctional grift full of money grubbers and PHON is exactly the same thing.
These people are ignorant, talk to them and hear them rabbit on with the same tired talking points they have been spewing forever, it’s racism pure and simple.
Choose to view them as noble savages all you like, it doesn’t change who or what they are. At least they could be honest and fess up to it. I’ve been racist in the past, I’m not proud of it, but I grew up and realised people are all the same, the language might be different, the cultural perspective might not perfectly align, but we all have the same basic wants and needs.
There’s a reason that these right wingers and pseudo right wingers align so closely with super partisan religions, its all feelings all that way down logic and rationality are actively shunned. While they stamp their feet, stick out their bottom lips and demand they are the only ones using “common sense”.
It’s got nothing to do with people who are worse off than us, but with the fact that we’re bringing in more people than we can sustain. It’s not hard to understand.
No one is asking to deport all immigrants. No one is saying to lock the borders forever. People just want the people that are already here - even the immigrants - to be able to have a chance to get somewhere to live before they import another 1000+ people per day who will compete with them for housing, while we’re building nowhere near enough new houses.
That’s not racism. Trying to paint it all as racism is stupid and why one nation is surging. Anyone arguing that stemming the flow of immigrants until we can fix the housing crisis isn’t “common sense” needs to take a look in the mirror.
And if you can’t see what a bunch of dog whistles all of that is you are as cooked as the people who posted all that in the first place. The numbers are already dropping from the spike after Covid. People are already losing jobs that interact with international markets, for example international education. We need to build more houses… Absolutely. Looks like the government is already trying to tweak the levers to incentivise investment into construction over hoarding existing properties.
You have been proselytized by the owner class, they own the property, they own the businesses and they own the media and they convince you that the only way to make the smallest of forward steps is at the expense of someone weaker than you. The more time we spend squabbling among ourselves the less time we spend thinking of ways to start taking back the wealth they have stolen from us, continue to steal from us.
As soon as there are no more Billionaires, no more corporations paying effectively zero tax, no more politicians that are owned by people who’s interests are the exact opposite of the public good I will accept there just isn’t enough to go round. That is common sense. Australia returning to isolationism will just prove the words of Lee Kuan Yew right.
We can aspire to be more than peasants. We don’t have to hand our government over to the mining companies and their robber baron CEOs. Plus you know once the PHONeys get their way with migrants, it’s trans people, then the rest of the LGBT community.
A 3 question civics test before you can vote would destroy whole blocs of voters in Australia. Just get them to identify how a progressive income tax works, which country is the biggest greenhouse gas emitter in the OECD, and which parts of the Miranda Rights apply to them, boom PHON gets a dozen votes across the whole country.
Having some kind of extremely-low barrier, pre-declared multiple-choice test questions in order to gain ballot access is an idea I’ve played around with. Literally mail out a pamphlet with the questions and answers, drafted by the AEC and approved by as many candidates/parties as possible to prevent it being unneutral or propagandised. Objective things like “Which of these services does the federal government handle?” and “Which of these is the typical income of an average Australian?”. And if, for whatever reason, you can’t answer these simple questions, you aren’t informed enough to help decide who represents us in our democratic system.
Relevant, but not quite the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemic_democracy
Sorry, but I disagree.
you aren’t informed enough to help decide who represents us in our democratic system
I can guarantee you I don’t know enough about the candidates in my electorate. And I purposely allocate and spend time looking at them before I go to vote. Also, my vote has probably never made any difference at all in who was elected.
Unless. Wait…
Oh. I get it. Maybe I am one of those who don’t deserve a vote.
If we make it a prerequisite to vote that ones need to be able to answer some extremely basic questions about the election they’re voting in, all of those questions being given months ahead of time, along with all the answers, then (barring profound mental conditions) not qualifying to vote is a choice. If you’re informed enough to know where the polling booth is, you’re probably capable of passing that bar. Based on your reply, you’d pass with flying colours.
If someone is so apathetic that they don’t know the absolute basic premise of a given election, what is the benefit of allowing them to vote in it?
Of course, and I didn’t emphasise this enough, the system I’m proposing relies heavily on the ability for the election organisers, through tools such as the government and law, to empower every possible voter to understand the basic premise of the election. And in a sea of corporate-owned media (both traditional and online), this is easier said than done, but far from impossible.
I think everyone deserves to be given the tools they need to have real political power. That’s demo-cracy.
More a test on the fundamentals of our government structure. I actually believe not knowing your candidates and their positions is a sign that they aren’t communicating them effectively. Not knowing the difference between say State and Federal levels of government means you personally lack knowledge of the fundamentals. If that makes sense.
