• Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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    21 hours ago

    Most religious idiots argue carbon dating is junk science or fake. Its like the single most commonality between every cult member.

    My boss for example fully believes that the earth is 6000 years old and that carbon dating isn’t real. Because and I quote “I am required by my faith to believe the earth is 6000 years old for it is in the Bible. If I do not believe it I will go to hell”.

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      My boss for example fully believes that the earth is 6000 years old and that carbon dating isn’t real. Because and I quote “I am required by my faith to believe the earth is 6000 years old for it is in the Bible. If I do not believe it I will go to hell”.

      I wonder if your boss makes any distinction in their mind between truly believing something and telling everybody you believe it’s true.

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        My boss USE to “believe” in science. But he doesn’t want to go to hell. So he actively now chooses to “believe” and follow his faith.

        He is very clear on that fact. He’s even able to explain rather well a lot of for lack of a better word. Sciencey things.

        But he’s willfully and actively choosen to stop “believing” in that.

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          I wonder if he’s ever heard of Pascal’s Wager or the 800 reasons it doesn’t make sense.

          You should tell him that the non-abrahamic god YOU believe in will not only send you to hell for anything less than 100% belief, but will curse your entire family/ancestors/descendants to the same fate regardless of their faith and deeds.

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      20 hours ago

      There is zero requirement for that in the Bible, that person is just an idiot who can’t understand things.

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      19 hours ago

      The thing is, if you’re an all mighty god, you can create earth today to look like it’s been here for billions of years, so these arguments are silly from the religious side. You can argue the method, but not the science.

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      20 hours ago

      I grew up around young earth creationists, and was taught at school that carbon dating is inaccurate to the point of uselessness past a couple thousand years. But interestingly they did not believe in hell at all. (They just believe all non believers will be burned to death once, with finality. Not forever)

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        17 hours ago

        What if you die before the rapture? Do you have a short afterlife that’s just burning to your second, final death or do you squeak by with no afterlife and no burning?

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          It’s been a while, but I’m pretty sure it was weirdly complicated, like

          1. Jesus comes down
          2. All the dead believers are brought back to life
          3. All believers are taken to heaven
          4. Non believers are left on earth doing their own thing
          5. 1000 years later, Jesus comes back to earth, raises everyone else back from the dead, then burns everyone/everything
          6. Jesus moves heaven back to earth, which is now perfect

          … Or something like that? Hard to tell which parts I got taught and which parts I hallucinated in a fever at some point

          Edit: I looked it up and I am shocked at how well I remember it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_eschatology#Eschatological_events

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            2 hours ago

            sooo zombie apocalypse is started by zombie jesus as a prelude to the rapture? are we at zombie apocalypse 1 or 2?