• MisterFrog@aussie.zone
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    18 hours ago

    This is a stupid take. The problem is only parents who aren’t teaching their kids properly.

    A bit of noise from some slightly rowdy children is not a big deal.

    Let’s not further isolate our society. Parents should feel free to bring their kids along places so they can still socialise.

    I say this as someone without children.

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      Let’s not further isolate our society. Parents should feel free to bring their kids along places so they can still socialise.

      Totally agree. And it’s not that difficult to find quiet places. I’d like to see more kids out and about be safe and playing, laughing, screaming, whatever, or meeting other people in the company of their parents so they learn about community and communication. So many kids are cooped up with their parents and with gadgets indoors day in and day out.

      it’s like we want to warehouse the old, warehouse the kids and warehouse precious adults. This is no way to have a healthy community.

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      It’s completely fine to ask for some spaces to be adults only and no children.

      Honestly some kids are annoying shits and I reckon parents would probably appreciate those spaces when the grandparents or others are looking after their own.

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    Ohhh i loathe people like this. They muddy the waters on bad parenting so hard.

    When you’ve got … kids jumping in the pool

    This is called being a child. It is normal. The world does not cater to you exclusively, sit the fuck down. You are making it harder for the rest of us to get bad parents to stop letting their kids eat paint in bunnings

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      Doesn’t that go both ways though- the world doesn’t exclusively cater to you either?

      The only time I hear that line it’s out of the mouths of people who think they don’t have to ever accomodate anyone else.

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        They’re literally complaining about children being, well, children. Including bitching about a kid screaming on a flight and "if i did that - "

        She’s a grown adult. Not a child still learning to emotionally regulate. I’m cf but there’s a difference between being childfree and being so damned pig ignorant you throw a tantrum when children do not act like adults

        Also what part of what i posted had anything to do with demanding catering

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    21 hours ago

    Who is ready to see the horrific downfall of the country due to crashing birth rates, like South Korea will be demonstrating for us over the next few decades?

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    There’s a café in Berlin named The Barn which has this philosophy: the doorway has a bollard in the middle to impede the entry of prams.

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    I guess these people can start their own non family friendly businesses and see how that goes for them?

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    It would be nice to have adult only public transport. When I first had to regularly use public transport I thought the high schoolers were noisy shits. Jesus now I use a route that a mob of the younger ones use. The parents are there but they just watch the chaos.

    Grrrrrr, get off my lawn, and ferry.

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      Public transport is one of the only ways teenagers (among many other vulnerable groups) can get some independence in a very car-centric society. You’d be fighting an uphill battle trying convince people to exclude kids from the public transport system.

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        100%. Parents today won’t let their kids do much by themselves and this is normally where they start

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      21 hours ago

      and ferry

      Keelhaul the kiddos!


      Some of our trains have quiet carriages, which are nice. I haven’t been on many but I haven’t seen them noisy either.

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    Shhhhhhhhhhhh, Tanya!

    You will alert the breeders to the secret quiet places!

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    She also cited multiple flights where a child screamed “its head off”.

    "If I did the same thing, I’d be kicked out of somewhere.

    1. Headphones
    2. What?? No shit genious. How unfair for you.
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    We have a declining population that needs more births and here we have hedonists making the world less kid friendly.

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        The issue is more births or more migration or both. Otherwise we have declining population which is totally incompatible with capitalism.

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        Because we all need help as we get older. Whether it’s cleaning solar panels or showering, we all need some level of help.

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          Because we all need help as we get older.

          Yes, we do. Why do we need more births for that?

          There are still plenty of people being born, and growing up and entering the work force as adults. We (i.e. society, i.e. whoever holds the purse strings) can offer better pay and better job conditions for those workers, so that it’s a more appealing career for the people who will already be looking for jobs.

          Better help for the people who will be born anyway. Not pushing for more births.

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            Who is performing the help? We don’t have enough people now that want to help. Go to any nursing home and see that we need to import the help. If we want to continue that way then we need to grow. Either people are born here or we import births from other countries. Either way the births have to happen.

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          The average worker is several times more productive than they were 100 years ago and women have entered as well. If we don’t have enough workers, that’s evidence the value isn’t going where it should.

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            Half the shit inmyour house didn’t exist 100 years ago. The things we need/want in our lives now take more effort to design and build. Go move in with the Amish if you want the 100 years ago life

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    choosing not to have kids

    There’s also the people who wanted to have kids, but weren’t able to due to medical/fertility problems. The article mentions “fertility intentions” briefly, but doesn’t really explore the psychology of it.

    Much as people who are childfree by choice may be irritated by kids, for those who are “childfree by circumstance” it can be painful to put up with other people’s when you can’t have your own.