• deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    Oh yeah, you see that a lot (both homophobia and misogyny) with rap music or rap adjacent music as well. Funny enough the most progressive people I’ve ever met are black dudes and most of the rappers I’m talking about who popularized this kinda thing are white (looking at u, Eminem) but to pretend like it hasn’t been deep in rap culture for a while regardless of race is not true. I’ve noticed a lot of rappers are Christians now, too. Like even project pat is a pastor or something and he was literally in a group called 3 6 mafia (666).

    Idk my point exactly but I do feel like a lot of artists dabble in cultural norms like sexism and homophobia because it’s what you grow up knowing, culture meaning American/English speaking art and not like ethnic culture or anything, so of course when you start spitting bars you’re gonna probably go to money, btches, cars and fuck the haters cuz they’re weak pssy f**s you all know the rest. It’s even a big thing rn where non-black rappers are saying the N word allllll over their albums like Shorline mafia, even Immortal technique but he’s an outlier ig because he stopped saying slurs and the N word long ago, but the homophobia thing still stand with him he went way too long saying some pretty nasty shit for a leftist rapper.

    • Noxy@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      immortal technique specifically is beyond forgiveness or redemption for me. that guy can fuck so very far off

        • deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          Nah don’t listen to that person Tech is still great. He runs his own food drive in NYC and he’s out putting in the work. He said some crazy shit back in the day but he’s always real, one of the only genuinely openly communist, anti-imperialist rappers that raps about materialism n shit. And he doesn’t hate gay people and has clearly reconciled with his use of the N word as a non-black man, something a lot of modern non-black rappers do with 0 material analysis.

          that Mexican OT, as much as I dig the guys music, is a good example of someone who has been told by different communities to stop saying the N word but won’t because he identifies with it even tho he’s not black and will never know what that is like, if that makes sense.

          • forgetfulmeat@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            2 days ago

            Immortal Technique heavily impacted my beliefs in middle school so I’m happy to hear.

            On Mexican OT though. I’m from Texas originally. People will have a hard time trying to get him to stop saying it lol that’s obvious already but as a chicano that did live in texas I’m telling you lol

            The history of the word gets disconnected. Like they know but to them that’s another time and the word isn’t used the same anymore. To them it’s just a casual and informal word. Friendly even. It’s certainly not out of racism at least. I personally have always protested it. I didn’t really grow up in Texas though so my position is a little different.

            • deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              23 hours ago

              Oh yeah ! I 100% know it’s not from a racist place, and I’m a little white dude so I have no real horse in this race, I’m not gonna tell anyone shit if they’re not white ya know. OT still raps with some of my favorite rappers so it seems pretty negligible in general, and funny enough i don’t think he said it on his newest tracks with Denzel 😂 and he’s fun