• otp@sh.itjust.works
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    15 hours ago

    I think the difference is that these white supremacists are necessarily committing crimes.

    The people wearing masks to commit crimes don’t want to get caught and criminally charged.

    These white supremacists don’t want to be socially shamed for what they’re doing.

    They both don’t out of fear of repercussions.

    The difference is that these white supremacists are afraid of being identified standing up for what they believe in, and the antifa in your example are afraid of receiving criminal charges.

    I think that’s a noteworthy difference.

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      11 hours ago

      Yes I totally see that difference and I feel nothing what I wrote indicates that I dont.

      What I dont get is, how people come to the conclusion that I dont see the difference. Like is it my phrasing or the context of this specific discussion?

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        11 hours ago

        You said that the argument that these people are cowards sucks because

        Antifascists also cover their faces and it doesnt take anything away from them.

        And they want to scare, do crimes & violence and want to get away with it. Wearing masks is actually the best way to show that you plan on doing exactly that. It 100% fits what they want to achieve.

        I was making the point that the white supremacists cover their faces out of cowardice (as others have said) because they simply don’t want to be seen standing up for their beliefs. On the contrary, as you stated, Antifa would be covering their faces to prevent being held responsible for crimes.

        I would imagine that Antifa people sharing and standing up for their beliefs in non-criminal ways wouldn’t be masked. The masks are to keep them out of jail.

        The masks on the white supremacists are to keep other people from knowing they have these beliefs. This is what makes them cowards, without also making Antifa cowards.

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        11 hours ago

        you’ve got some unclear pronouns. a few of the Theys could be referring to either group depending on your assumptions.