Sure, you can find that bit of trivia online, but he almost exclusively goes by he in his professional work and life. He seems to be his regular pronoun, with they stated as acceptable. But he is a binary trans man. Truthfully his “he/they” seems like when some trans people say that to accommodate cis people, not a genuine statement of identity. We’re talking about a binary trans man who won’t get offended if a cis person calls him they, if they simply can’t bring themselves to use he. This isn’t the case of a someone with an enby identity.
But this is a distraction from the real discusdion here. From context, it was obvious the person I called out was engaging in degendering. You can read between the lines. They didn’t take the time to research Elliot’s pronouns first. They just reflexively degendered him.
Or they may have well not fully known what pronouns are preferred, and to avoid offending anyone chose the neutral, non-offensive “they”, a universally accepted pronoun that could apply to anyone.
Regardless, you’re getting offended over nothing because they is a preferred pronoun for Elliot, along with he.
Truthfully his “he/they” seems like when some trans people say that to accommodate cis people, not a genuine statement of identity.
This is pretty fucking disrespectful towards Elliot. Don’t disrespect someone’s preferred pronouns like that, that’s even worse than your accusation.
You’re wrong. He’s explicitly said he prefers he/him.
A lot of binary trans people will say “they” is appropriate largely to ammeliorate cis people who can’t bring themselves to gender a binary trans person properly.
He’s a binary trans man. In all media he’s referred to as he. He identifies and lives as a man, not a nonbinary person. Binary trans people should not be subject to enby erasure.
Have you never interacted with trans people IRL? It’s extremely common for binary trans people to tell cis people “they” is ok, simply to avoid being referred to as their AGAB. This is extremely common when someone first comes out.
Generally, if a binary trans person says they go by he/they or she/they, 9 times out of ten they’re just trying to get people to not refer to themselves as their AGAB. Identifying as a binary trans person and actually wanting to go by they is nonsense to most binary trans people. If you ask most binary trans people what pronoun they prefer and you already knew they were a man/woman? They would look at you like you’re an idiot. After all, if pronouns aren’t a way to announce your gender, what else are they supposed to be for? Pronouns are a shorthand for your gender. Having a pronoun that doesn’t match your identity is an illogical contradiction. That’s why it’s so rare for binary trans people to actually want to go by they.
A few oddballs identify as binary but still actually identify with the they term, but it’s pretty contradictory and illogical for most people. It’s a rare exception, not a standard rule.
Unless a binary trans person has explicitly said they prefer both equally, a reasonable assumption is that they prefer the binary label and that they primarily use they to avoid being referred to as their AGAB.
Sure, you can find that bit of trivia online, but he almost exclusively goes by he in his professional work and life. He seems to be his regular pronoun, with they stated as acceptable. But he is a binary trans man. Truthfully his “he/they” seems like when some trans people say that to accommodate cis people, not a genuine statement of identity. We’re talking about a binary trans man who won’t get offended if a cis person calls him they, if they simply can’t bring themselves to use he. This isn’t the case of a someone with an enby identity.
But this is a distraction from the real discusdion here. From context, it was obvious the person I called out was engaging in degendering. You can read between the lines. They didn’t take the time to research Elliot’s pronouns first. They just reflexively degendered him.
Or they may have well not fully known what pronouns are preferred, and to avoid offending anyone chose the neutral, non-offensive “they”, a universally accepted pronoun that could apply to anyone.
Regardless, you’re getting offended over nothing because they is a preferred pronoun for Elliot, along with he.
This is pretty fucking disrespectful towards Elliot. Don’t disrespect someone’s preferred pronouns like that, that’s even worse than your accusation.
You’re wrong. He’s explicitly said he prefers he/him.
A lot of binary trans people will say “they” is appropriate largely to ammeliorate cis people who can’t bring themselves to gender a binary trans person properly.
He’s a binary trans man. In all media he’s referred to as he. He identifies and lives as a man, not a nonbinary person. Binary trans people should not be subject to enby erasure.
Have you never interacted with trans people IRL? It’s extremely common for binary trans people to tell cis people “they” is ok, simply to avoid being referred to as their AGAB. This is extremely common when someone first comes out.
Generally, if a binary trans person says they go by he/they or she/they, 9 times out of ten they’re just trying to get people to not refer to themselves as their AGAB. Identifying as a binary trans person and actually wanting to go by they is nonsense to most binary trans people. If you ask most binary trans people what pronoun they prefer and you already knew they were a man/woman? They would look at you like you’re an idiot. After all, if pronouns aren’t a way to announce your gender, what else are they supposed to be for? Pronouns are a shorthand for your gender. Having a pronoun that doesn’t match your identity is an illogical contradiction. That’s why it’s so rare for binary trans people to actually want to go by they.
A few oddballs identify as binary but still actually identify with the they term, but it’s pretty contradictory and illogical for most people. It’s a rare exception, not a standard rule.
Unless a binary trans person has explicitly said they prefer both equally, a reasonable assumption is that they prefer the binary label and that they primarily use they to avoid being referred to as their AGAB.
Uh… That link appears to say that he identifies as non-binary and likes either he/him OR they/them
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