• Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    I thought his performance in the Oddessy was one of the weakest I ever saw from Page, so that won’t help. Oh well, can’t win m all.

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      To be fair, their total screen time was what? 10 minutes? Out of a 3 hour movie? And half of that was them being killed and the other half was playing a shade/ghost whose only purpose was to admonish Odysseus for letting them be killed? Sure, the character of Sinon had more significance to the story (or at least, to Odysseus specifically), but that part of their story was played by a literal 13 year old (Mason Cufari according to IMDb). Have I seen stronger roles from Elliot before? Oh for sure, but this role wasn’t supposed to be the creme de la creme. For a purely supporting role, I for one thought they were perfectly suitable.

      P.S. Sinon doesn’t even appear in the original myth AT ALL, regardless of translation. He was borrowed from Virgil’s The Aeneid which has its own set of goals, themes, and biases

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        I like how a lot of the Oddessy as we currently view it is a mixed bag of all kinds of stories. Gilgamesh will be similar in that regard, I have no doubt.

        Still, being a side character with less then great type of ‘place’ in the story doesn’t have to mean anything for a performance, right? I thought it was a weak performance . I guess we disagree about that. I’ve seen better from Page in multiple other movies. Also didn’t help that a lot of the main cast was delivering fiery hot performances, it increases the contrast. As I said, sometimes you miss. Atlas shrugged.

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          I agree with everything you said right up until you pulled in Ayn Rand at the very end (yes I know she didn’t invent the phrase but boy do I hate her with a burning passion). Still upvoted you for providing a reasonable discussion instead of just diving into personal attacks or other bad faith arguments like some others here on the Internet. Much appreciated

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    His parts weren’t that large compared to others. He nailed that second one though, great work. Overall the movie was okay, but honestly I was never impressed with Homer’s work anyway. It’s classic and great because it was one of the first and other stories have used it to build on. That’s about it.

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      I think you’re overlooking the beauty of the language. But also, while the iliad does suffer a bit from being boring, the odyssey is legit pretty good.

      The structure of odysseus recounting his story after washing up ashore is pretty good, scylla and charbdis is a good metaphor that’s still used for a reason, the cyclops bit is a classic trickster tale, the sirens singing all the knowledge of the world is cool, the overall motif of a morally ambiguous anti-hero suffering consequences is compelling and everyone around him suffering worse feels very true to the nature of power.

      My favourite bit is when athena appears before him right at the end and he’s like oh i’m just this poor sailor from krete and tells this hugely elaborate and convincing lie about who he is. But athena is like lol dude who are trying to bluff here, i’m literally athena. 😆