I’ve been doing the OverTheWire Bandit over the past couple of days and have become stuck on the earlier levels. I deem this very embarrassing as this is supposed to be an “easy” and “recommended for beginners” type of puzzle that requires hands on understanding of the Linux terminal. But I have been using Linux for 9 months now, I wouldn’t do the most complicated things (other than break my whole os) only the things required to make my overall user experience somewhat enjoyable. Now this makes me very sad to come to the conclusions that I may be below the average Linux beginner which I didn’t know was possible according to my knowledge. I am only asking of tips and tricks to these puzzles and maybe to positive reinforcement to make feel better about myself. Now I will not tolerate spoilers as in the official rules of OverTheWire clearly states, and I hope you will follow this rule for the better sake of my learning and understanding of the Linux terminal ( and for the sake of the game itself)
Are people just not exploring websites anymore? Surely my household can’t be the only one where if you don’t know how to use a website or find something on it, we actively explore it. (Dodgy sites notwithstanding, I mean safe and legit sites). Am I strange that if I can’t work out how to use something, I look for a manual. And barring that, I try different things, trouble shoot using logic, etc. to work it out for myself… I’m not a programmer but I can’t say as I had a great deal of difficulty working out how to use Github (as a consumer) for myself…
Actually websites like Softonic would be neat for this kind of stuff.
“smelly”??
I think you’re projecting
He is right to be honest. I had to search for 3 days to find linux.exe.
He’s got a point. As someone who’s familiar and uses GitHub all the time, there are moments of frustration where it’s like… “just let me be braindead and have it work”
Especially github projects with instructions like:
On Debian/Ubuntu, install from my PPA
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:totally/well-maintainedor on Hannah Montana Linux, build with
python2 mk-dependencies.py fartify-next build --forceitI love the detail of python2 lmao.
github is a platform for developers not for normies. So normies shouldn’t be using it (doesn’t matter if you use linux or not)
Also this shit is fake.
github may be intended for developers, but it is used as a software repository for normies as well. a lot of software is only hosted on github with no normie way to access it. normies should still be allowed to use software
When we’re talking about free software someone makes in their free time, I don’t think the normie is entitled to anything. I made a thing and gave it away to the world, figure it out.
That being said less friction is better, so I really appreciate when the dev gives simple to consume packages.
This dynamic changes when money starts getting exchanged, either explicitly by buying or implicitly by donating, the sponsor is entitled to have their needs acknowledged and addressed.
This isn’t a discussion about “entitlement”, but ease of use.
A user is not owed “ease of use” for every random thing on GitHub. It’s appreciated, but unless something is given in return for the software, it’s on the user to figure their shit out.
I’m not against helping users. If they’re civil, they should be addressed. But anyone coming with anger and entitlement, like the original meme, should absolutely be shown the door.
At the end of the day, GitHub is a developer platform. And release distribution is a feature to make the developer experience better. Take it or leave it.
A user is not owed “ease of use”
I already covered this in the comment you just replied to.
At the end of the day, GitHub is a developer platform
This was also covered several comments up. If you don’t have anything new to present, I’ll bid you good day.
less friction is better
I strongly but respectfully disagree.
Why? Genuinely interested.
Well, I admit I’m being a little facetious.
But that fact that “normie” users have zero tolerance for friction is a real problem. If you can’t do anything that’s not spoonfed to you, then you are prey for corporate abuse. The only people who really care about minimizing friction are the people trying to exploit “normies” for profit. Most open-source software is built to solve problems that are more important than “how can we exploit the general population a little more effectively?”
I don’t think the solution here is for every single open-source project to devote a large percentage of their time and resources to eliminating friction. That would be a huge drain on teams that have more important things to do.
Rather, the solution is for users to be willing to spend a few seconds here and there to understand what they’re doing and what their options are.
I think there is some pride and value in setting things up in a way that reduces friction.
I myself am of a similar opinion tho. Someone maintaining a thing as a hobby doesn’t owe me shit. If it’s too tedious to figure out, I’ll move to another solution. It’s really nice, when I get the option of a consumable bundle. But if they can’t, don’t like or simply don’t care for ease of consumption — tough luck for me I guess.
tl;dr
Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth
The big secret no one tells you about about bandit, is you have to read the fucking manual. No really. RTFM. Each level tells you what commands you may need. The manual pages for those commands tell you the context and syntax of their usage.
That is literally the only tip/trick. Read the instructions.
I’m sorry if the image confuses you guys, I just found it funny and it was that only Linux related image I had. 😅
All these comments about git, but OP is presumably asking about this: https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/
I am sick and tired of waiting for linux.exe /s
I just want windows11.deb
I got to the cr@ck version from a BBS. Give me your ASL and I’ll hook you up.
To be fair. It do be like that sometimes.
You can find linux.exe easily on limewire or gnutella, should be just a few megabytes in size, enjoy!
Funny calling a nerd stupid. Probably doesn’t even know what guthub is.
I’ve been playing Linux for a while, and I’m pretty sure it’s spelled “guthib”.
OT, it completely checks out that danemadsen’s github history is filled with “AI” development.
