Oh no, not this again… There’s enough food for everyone and we throw most of it away. Farming can be improved, and we also need to change our diets and how we distribute food. Water is equally abundant, but we can’t have huge cities in the desert. That sort of stuff.
Calling people existing a problem is itself problematic. It’s a step on the way to socially pressure or outright forbid people from having children, which makes existing power dynamics super creepy. Like, you think the rich and powerful will ever be denied this right? It’s always some nebulous other or people generally who should stop existing or having babies. Dystopian rhetoric if you ask me. The road to eugenics, fascism, genocide is paved with green liberals concerned about overpopulation.
It is definitely true that by lowering the amount of food waste (like food retail companies letting their employees bring almost expired food home to consume etc etc). I just unfortunately assume that we won’t really improve in this food waste area.
Eugenics and genocide in the name of overpopulation could theoretically go into power (or comeback with eugenics), although I think the chance of that happening will be low, atleast in countries like Europe and north american countries, but your point is understandable.
‘I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or broiled.’
There’s always too many people when you ask a person like this about the population, but never enough people when you ask the same person the same question but include skin color in the question. F everyone who whines about population.
as a society there’s more than enough to take care of a disproportionate amount of “non-workers” but instead we make up fake bullshit jobs and force people to work 40 hour weeks so a tiny fraction of us can send their second plane to pick up their girlfriend to go on a date in Italy
They’re concerned about “their” people, because it’s declining only in rich countries and those tend to see themselves as “better” and don"t like “unregulated immigration” (while the regulated one costs shit tons of money). Also those who bring thst up are usually right-wingers.
Things were going well until Xi Jinping became a dictator and China reversed the One Child Policy. Although, TBH, the CCP was always corrupt, but it’s definitely stepped up recently.
We also managed to slightly curb the population growth in the Middle East before the Taliban resurgence. The middle east is the fastest growing population, and a 1995 UN Meeting in Cairo Egypt came to the conclusion that education and rights for women were the ideal solutions to the problem.
Let’s be fair, 9 billion of people living on Earth is already just too much and we are projected to peak at 11 billion apparently.
Oh no, not this again… There’s enough food for everyone and we throw most of it away. Farming can be improved, and we also need to change our diets and how we distribute food. Water is equally abundant, but we can’t have huge cities in the desert. That sort of stuff.
Calling people existing a problem is itself problematic. It’s a step on the way to socially pressure or outright forbid people from having children, which makes existing power dynamics super creepy. Like, you think the rich and powerful will ever be denied this right? It’s always some nebulous other or people generally who should stop existing or having babies. Dystopian rhetoric if you ask me. The road to eugenics, fascism, genocide is paved with green liberals concerned about overpopulation.
There must be a limit on how many people earth can house.
Saying “not limit” would be an irrational dogma.
Once the existing of a limit is accepted we can and should discuss what number it is.
It is definitely true that by lowering the amount of food waste (like food retail companies letting their employees bring almost expired food home to consume etc etc). I just unfortunately assume that we won’t really improve in this food waste area.
Eugenics and genocide in the name of overpopulation could theoretically go into power (or comeback with eugenics), although I think the chance of that happening will be low, atleast in countries like Europe and north american countries, but your point is understandable.
‘I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or broiled.’
There’s always too many people when you ask a person like this about the population, but never enough people when you ask the same person the same question but include skin color in the question. F everyone who whines about population.
Please tell me why everyone is so concerned about declining birth rates*. Please.
*Without mentioning industry
Because it means there will be a larger burden on (smaller) younger generations to look after the aging ones.
Instead of 6 kids and 30 grandkids, you maybe have 2 kids and 1 grandkid, if you’re lucky.
as a society there’s more than enough to take care of a disproportionate amount of “non-workers” but instead we make up fake bullshit jobs and force people to work 40 hour weeks so a tiny fraction of us can send their second plane to pick up their girlfriend to go on a date in Italy
They’re concerned about “their” people, because it’s declining only in rich countries and those tend to see themselves as “better” and don"t like “unregulated immigration” (while the regulated one costs shit tons of money). Also those who bring thst up are usually right-wingers.
Or to say it bluntly: Xenophobia and racism.
Yeah that’s not true at all lol
Because we’re anxious about our investments in soylent green.
Things were going well until Xi Jinping became a dictator and China reversed the One Child Policy. Although, TBH, the CCP was always corrupt, but it’s definitely stepped up recently.
We also managed to slightly curb the population growth in the Middle East before the Taliban resurgence. The middle east is the fastest growing population, and a 1995 UN Meeting in Cairo Egypt came to the conclusion that education and rights for women were the ideal solutions to the problem.