Within the act, he tried to joke about “old-fashioned women. They’re the ones with wombs.”
“Those f****** dinosaurs,” he continued. Mocking trans women, the comedian added: “I love the new women. They’re great, aren’t they? The new ones we’ve been seeing lately. The ones with beards and c****.”
In the same show, he declared: “OK, full disclosure, in real life, of course, I support trans rights.
“I support all human rights and trans rights are human rights. Live your best life. Use your preferred pronoun.”
However, he followed that statement up with: “But meet me halfway, ladies. Lose the c***. That’s all I’m saying.”
you know what helps us lose the cock? better support and funding for trans healthcare … something like half of all trans women would like a vaginoplasty but something like 12% are actually able to make it happen
And that’s a common misconception. Satire IS objective: if you’re using it to punch up you’re objectively right, if you’re using it to punch down you’re objectively wrong. It’s as easy as that
Edit: who the fuck censors ‘cock’?! I’m leaving my original comment below because it highlights how unhelpful censoring words is for discussion. The actual word he said was ‘cock’, not what I guessed - which makes some of what i said below not make sense, but doesn’t actually make his statement less transphobic.
(Apologies in advance to anyone who does not like to read the ‘c-word’, perhaps skip my comment if this is you)
What does that last part even mean, in context of his clarifying statement, or ‘as a joke’? Maybe I am just not getting it.
“I support all human rights and trans rights are human rights. Live your best life. Use your preferred pronoun.”
“But meet me halfway, [trans] ladies. Lose the cunt. That’s all I’m saying.”
If post-OP trans women had surgery to change their body back to not having a ‘cunt’ they’d be back to having body dysmorphia, which misunderstands their primary malady. Its also said so frivolously - as though trans bottom-surgery is a minor op you can just change your mind on at whim. It completly undercuts his former comments of support.
As far as I can see the joke is that he doesn’t really support trans rights and he’s just ‘saying the things you have to say now’ with a wink to his audience, and then clarifying that he’s not really an ally, fuck em lol. That’s the ‘joke’, right?
and i was confused about the c*** censored version. I thought losing their cock is just what trans women generally want to (or did).
Thanks for spelling it out, but now I’m even more confused.
I made the wrong assumption too, because losing a cock is generally the major goal of trans women… So it made no sense to me and I presumed cunt as it would be more logical to censor.
I looked up the original now and confirmed
It is ‘cock’, so I went off on somewhat of a tangent…
what was the joke? want to judge him appropriately, though the way he is doubling down is sus already
you know what helps us lose the cock? better support and funding for trans healthcare … something like half of all trans women would like a vaginoplasty but something like 12% are actually able to make it happen
“Live your best life. But meet me halfway by living the life I want you live instead of your best life.”
I don’t think it’s bad to make trans jokes. You should be able to joke about everything.
But why it sounds like he doesn’t even try to make a joke. He’s just trying to say cunt or cock or whatever the fuck you censored for some reason
This is taken directly from the article. I didn’t censor anything.
And I’m fine with jokes about anything, but they need to be in good taste. These aren’t in good taste.
Jokes absolutely do not need to be in “good taste” because that’s extremely subjective
And that’s a common misconception. Satire IS objective: if you’re using it to punch up you’re objectively right, if you’re using it to punch down you’re objectively wrong. It’s as easy as that
aww, how adorable, he’s trying …
not really, but he thinks he’s trying.
this is the kind of things that fit the expression
“new ideas don’t replace old ones when they are sown to be better, but when old people die”
Edit: who the fuck censors ‘cock’?! I’m leaving my original comment below because it highlights how unhelpful censoring words is for discussion. The actual word he said was ‘cock’, not what I guessed - which makes some of what i said below not make sense, but doesn’t actually make his statement less transphobic.
(Apologies in advance to anyone who does not like to read the ‘c-word’, perhaps skip my comment if this is you)
What does that last part even mean, in context of his clarifying statement, or ‘as a joke’? Maybe I am just not getting it.
If post-OP trans women had surgery to change their body back to not having a ‘cunt’ they’d be back to having body dysmorphia, which misunderstands their primary malady. Its also said so frivolously - as though trans bottom-surgery is a minor op you can just change your mind on at whim. It completly undercuts his former comments of support.
As far as I can see the joke is that he doesn’t really support trans rights and he’s just ‘saying the things you have to say now’ with a wink to his audience, and then clarifying that he’s not really an ally, fuck em lol. That’s the ‘joke’, right?
I’m guessing the word is actually cock/cocks.
Either way yikes.
I didn’t even consider cock… What kind of puritan wowser censors ‘cock’, and do they also write “the c*** crowed in the morning”.
TERF island gonna puritan
I’m guessing the writer copied and pasted the quotes from a British article.
and i was confused about the c*** censored version. I thought losing their cock is just what trans women generally want to (or did). Thanks for spelling it out, but now I’m even more confused.
I made the wrong assumption too, because losing a cock is generally the major goal of trans women… So it made no sense to me and I presumed cunt as it would be more logical to censor.
I looked up the original now and confirmed It is ‘cock’, so I went off on somewhat of a tangent…