In the same comment, apotheotic declared: “OK, full disclosure, in real life, of course, I support ricky gervais rights.
“I support all human rights and ricky gervais rights are human rights. Live your best life. Use your bad jokes.”
However, she followed that statement up with: “But meet me halfway, ricky. Have your tongue removed. That’s all I’m saying.”
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Another “I want to have my cake and eat it too” comedian hack.
No one has ever stopped you from making racist, sexist, transphobic, etc jokes. You want to be able to make them with impunity; in a way where someone can never say “I disagree with what you say”. You demand for freedom of speech to use it in the ugliest way possible and then you receive consequences your gut instinct is to deny that same right to your critics. Coward.
I’m sure he’s right up there with Dave chappelle and similar folks where he will moan about cancel culture. There is maybe some nuance to this issue for someone who works at Arby’s to pay for a studio apartment they share and gets caught on a bad day in a viral video or something. This is not that and unfortunately those instances let these people weaponize this shit: “it could happen to YOU”. MAGA turds eat it up because they’re always 10 seconds away from calling someone a slur.
These pricks are already wealthy beyond the wildest dreams of the majority of human beings. If they never earned another dime they’d be fine, except they’d maybe not be able to buy everyone in the family a fully loaded new Mercedes every year anymore. So sad. This rhetoric is therefore deflection to again avoid consequence and silence criticism
Read the article. Realized I was making a face like I smelled poo. That guy is a performative moderate and actually a piece of shit.
Just admit that your joke bombed because you echoed queer hate, and projected profound sexism in a matter of seconds. And then, when trying to preserve your image, you doubled down on the sexism and somehow tried to defend the male gaze.
People used to think you were funny because you had a smaller platform and you punched up by making fun of the common oppressors. But now that you’ve joined a more elite class, you’ve refused to put in the work to explore how to keep punching up from either our perspective or yours. You’ve become complacent due to the size of your platform, and know that punching down will keep you in the headlines better than “Ex-awards host comedian said something funny.”
But you forgot that people see you up on your platform and use your status and willful ignorance as a weapon in their own arsenal of hatred. How could someone so elevated and standing on such a large platform be wrong? Do something good with the dwindling credibility that you have left and apologize. Admit that you were wrong, and speak out against the hatred that you inadvertently promoted. Then make a joke about something actually relatable, such as celebrities that didn’t notice their creeping status rise fully remove them from their fans’ relatable experiences.
Jokes like those from people who said “just joking” are what kept me in the closet :(
i think you can make jokes about anything but they have to be very clever
almost all of the edgy jokes about these subjects are not and are just dog whistles or thinly disguised hate
He’s such a piece of dogshit
“I think I’m right”. And as a white dude this is all he needs. All he has to offer.
Yeah, we know, that’s the problem, fuck you Ricky
Well damn, that’s even better than actually being right! Pack it up y’all, we clearly stand no chance against this intellectual titan.
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Ricky this isn’t one of your shows you can write so you’re always the smartest person in the room.
This bigot does not speak for vegans.
He’s a vegan, too?
Fuck you ricky, you’re a hack, and a piece of shit. I hope you choke and die.
The weirdest thing to me is that his comedic style has always been about embarrassing himself as much as possible to make himself the butt of the joke. It’s what his characters were most known for. Now he’s just been doing it in real life and it’s hard to say whether he’s doing a bit again or that his characters being these oblivious, completely self-unaware assholes was a reflection of his true self. But then wouldn’t it take self-awareness to realize his own lack of self-awareness?
The conclusion seems clear. He’s just an asshole and the lack of self-awareness thing was his way to turn being an asshole into comedy that he could make money from.
Now he’s just been doing it in real life
He’s always been like this. I remember watching the DVD extras for one of his early specials (if that gives any indication of how long ago that was) and realizing it’s not a bit - he’s just like this.
Maybe he has a humiliation kink
what was the joke? want to judge him appropriately, though the way he is doubling down is sus already
Within the act, he tried to joke about “old-fashioned women. They’re the ones with wombs.”
“Those f****** dinosaurs,” he continued. Mocking trans women, the comedian added: “I love the new women. They’re great, aren’t they? The new ones we’ve been seeing lately. The ones with beards and c****.”
In the same show, he declared: “OK, full disclosure, in real life, of course, I support trans rights.
“I support all human rights and trans rights are human rights. Live your best life. Use your preferred pronoun.”
However, he followed that statement up with: “But meet me halfway, ladies. Lose the c***. That’s all I’m saying.”
you know what helps us lose the cock? better support and funding for trans healthcare … something like half of all trans women would like a vaginoplasty but something like 12% are actually able to make it happen
“Live your best life. But meet me halfway by living the life I want you live instead of your best life.”
I don’t think it’s bad to make trans jokes. You should be able to joke about everything.
But why it sounds like he doesn’t even try to make a joke. He’s just trying to say cunt or cock or whatever the fuck you censored for some reason
This is taken directly from the article. I didn’t censor anything.
And I’m fine with jokes about anything, but they need to be in good taste. These aren’t in good taste.
Jokes absolutely do not need to be in “good taste” because that’s extremely subjective
And that’s a common misconception. Satire IS objective: if you’re using it to punch up you’re objectively right, if you’re using it to punch down you’re objectively wrong. It’s as easy as that
aww, how adorable, he’s trying …
not really, but he thinks he’s trying.
this is the kind of things that fit the expression
“new ideas don’t replace old ones when they are sown to be better, but when old people die”
Edit: who the fuck censors ‘cock’?! I’m leaving my original comment below because it highlights how unhelpful censoring words is for discussion. The actual word he said was ‘cock’, not what I guessed - which makes some of what i said below not make sense, but doesn’t actually make his statement less transphobic.
(Apologies in advance to anyone who does not like to read the ‘c-word’, perhaps skip my comment if this is you)
What does that last part even mean, in context of his clarifying statement, or ‘as a joke’? Maybe I am just not getting it.
“I support all human rights and trans rights are human rights. Live your best life. Use your preferred pronoun.”
“But meet me halfway, [trans] ladies. Lose the cunt. That’s all I’m saying.”
If post-OP trans women had surgery to change their body back to not having a ‘cunt’ they’d be back to having body dysmorphia, which misunderstands their primary malady. Its also said so frivolously - as though trans bottom-surgery is a minor op you can just change your mind on at whim. It completly undercuts his former comments of support.
As far as I can see the joke is that he doesn’t really support trans rights and he’s just ‘saying the things you have to say now’ with a wink to his audience, and then clarifying that he’s not really an ally, fuck em lol. That’s the ‘joke’, right?
I’m guessing the word is actually cock/cocks.
Either way yikes.
I didn’t even consider cock… What kind of puritan wowser censors ‘cock’, and do they also write “the c*** crowed in the morning”.
TERF island gonna puritan
I’m guessing the writer copied and pasted the quotes from a British article.
and i was confused about the c*** censored version. I thought losing their cock is just what trans women generally want to (or did). Thanks for spelling it out, but now I’m even more confused.
I made the wrong assumption too, because losing a cock is generally the major goal of trans women… So it made no sense to me and I presumed cunt as it would be more logical to censor.
I looked up the original now and confirmed It is ‘cock’, so I went off on somewhat of a tangent…
Might get downvoted but I think a lot of his stuff is good, including this skit in context.
You like the pedo jokes too? Or the racist ones? Or the ones where he says that he wants to destroy the environment as much as possible just to make sure the next generations suffer?
Might need to review your own point of view.
