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    And some people on Lemmy were worried that the cold would keep Minnesotans indoors lol their fears were clearly unfounded

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    I initially thought: Yes!

    Then: Oh, it must be Saturday for this to be happening at all.

    I checked the date. It’s not Saturday. In addition the weather is awful.

    I came back around to: Yes!

    Do protests need to be sustained to be effective? Of course. Widespread? Absolutely. Regardless, the standard guardrails on protest comfort we’ve witnessed thus far are broken here, in a good way. Cascade effects may follow.

    The problem is if it remains local to one city, that’s easy peasy for authorities to squelch.

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    “But why don’t Americans protest? All they do is sit back and take it up the ass!” I hear every European crying as they ignore this right alongside all the other protests.

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      I love how it’s a bajillion degrees below zero and they are all outside protesting, flipping shit. Yeah, Americans don’t do anything. Fuck y’all that say it.

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      “EuRoPeAnS sAy wE dOnT pRoTeSt”.

      LOL, one year too late.

      “B-b-buT hOw aBoUt mY jOb, I caNt jUsT gO pRoTeST”

      Only started protesting when a white American citizen got shot in the face.

      Otherwise fascism was perfectly acceptable, as long as it didn’t affect you - the white Americans.

      But okay I guess, better late than never.

      Sure go pat yourself on the back, even though this protest hasn’t even achieved any results yet.

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        The protests last year were some of the largest in US history, up there with and possibly larger than during the Vietnam War and Civil Rights Movement.

        But go ahead and ignore those. Keep proving my original post right.

        It took a decade for the Civil Rights protests to get any real change to happen, and that was only after the murder of MLK caused the black community to burn down entire city districts and cause billions of dollars worth of property damage. Your average person - even in Europe - won’t go that far unless pushed.

        Europeans were perfectly fine with Nazi fascism right up until it was knocking down their door. They’ve been perfectly fine with allowing their right-wing parties to fall further and further into fascism right alongside the US. Italy had fascist gangs roaming the streets attacking people a few years back. You’ve been perfectly content to watch as European politicians target people like me almost as badly as Republicans have. Where are your protests in support of trans people? I guess it doesn’t affect you, so you don’t care.

        So go ahead and keep acting like you’re so much better than Americans. All of you are just proving my point and showing the exact reason that I’ve had enough of Europe and Canada. Pot, meet kettle.

        I’ve been in full support of anything Europe and Canada are doing to hurt America and fix their own issues, but the constant vitriol against the people who actually want to fight the fight has made me sick of the armchair generals all over Lemmy.

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          The protests last year were some of the largest in US history

          Yeah, I dunno if marching dressed as inflatable Pokémons did anything. In fact, I know it had an absolute zero effect, things only got worse, way worse. What was the point of that?

          “B-b-buT tHeY wErE bIgGeSt eVeR”.

          Sure, pat yourself on the back, but your country is still run by a pedophile war criminal.

          It still blows my mind, what kind of fucked up people elect such a person as a President… Fyi, Germans never elected Hitler, but you did! And now the world, suffering at the hands of your elected “President” are supposed to feel sorry for you?

          “B-b-buT i DiDnT vOtE fOr HiM” is what your gonna tell me, aren’t you?

          It took a decade for the Civil Rights protests to get any real change to happen

          Isn’t that just proof that your “protests” are useless?

          As recently as September 2025, Nepalese people overthrew their corrupt government in just 48 hours.

          Your average person - even in Europe - won’t go that far unless pushed.

          Bulgaria (Europe) changed their government in December 2025, because they were corrupt fucks, and people didn’t need to be pushed nowhere near as far, no one got abducted or shot dead in the face. This happened just over a month ago. Get your facts straight. I guess you didn’t know about that, because it doesn’t get nowhere near as fucked up as in your shithole, because we don’t let it.

          You see, in Europe, we learned about how fucked up Nazis were and how fucked up fascism is and we have way more checks and balances in place to keep the government from doing whatever the fuck they want.

          There isn’t a single country in the EU where a president or prime minister would have the power on their own to just decide and bomb fishermen, or abduct a leader of another country, or fuck children and get away with this. What is happening in the USA is beyond fucked up, and your response so far was to dress up as inflatable Pokémons.

          It took a white American citizen getting shot in the face, for people to start taking this seriously…

          Over 60% of history taught in the USA is American history, yet the country is not even 250 years old. In the USA, all you learn is your propaganda called “America the greatest”.

          No wonder fascists had such an easy way to rise to power.

          Sure, it’s not perfect in the EU, but what is happening in the USA is whole magnitudes worse.

          But you keep patting yourself on the back for marching in Pokémon costumes, that surely made the government think twice. That is, think twice whether to make a video of Trump pissing or shitting on the protesters.

          Seriously, I have no words how fucked up the USA is, and you clearly can’t the forest for the trees.

          Europeans were perfectly fine with Nazi fascism right up until it was knocking down their door.

          “B-b-buT wHaT aBoUt EU nAZiS.”

          GTFO with your aboutism.

          Go ahead, keep acting like the USA is the greatest of all. That’s what got you fucked in the first place.

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            People like you are why I’m so fed up with Europeans after the past 2 months. So angry that you can have the facts right in front of you but can’t put them together to see that 2 plus 2 is 4, only use them as fuel for 2 different sides of your argument. You point out how fucked things are here in one breath but don’t acknowledge that they’ve been fucked since before most of the people here were born and then blame us for not having the power to fix it with your next.

            Do you get this angry at the Chinese, North Koreans, or Russians for not deposing Putin or the CCP? Because, newsflash, America is the most propagandized country in the world and has a militarized domestic police force. The US and Russia are far more similar than most people realize or want to admit/acknowledge.

            Our children pledge their undying loyalty to the country every morning to the flag that is installed in every classroom in the country. There are only two other countries in the world with similar practices, and one of them was the Hitler’s Youth program in Nazi Germany. Military recruiters stalk the halls of our high schools and follow kids to their houses using the personal information given to them by the schools, including calling their personal cell phone numbers, to convince them to join the military. Hollywood is a massive pro US military machine. Any time you see a tank, jet, naval ship, or anything else in a superhero movie, it was bought and paid for to be in there by the US military with the stipulation that it be on the good guys side.

            Any safeguards and checks and balances our system had were actively eroded starting all the way back to the reconciliation after the Civil War, from ensuring that the votes of leftists count for less than the votes of conservatives - if and when they aren’t just drowned out by cutting up the voting districts to bury them under as much red as possible - to putting people in places of import whose loyalties lie with the party first and foremost.

            There isn’t a single country in the EU where a president or prime minister would have the power on their own to just decide and bomb fishermen, or abduct a leader of another country, or fuck children and get away with this.

            And neither should Trump. The reason that he can get away with it is because the people who should be holding him accountable - from the justice system to the politicians to the military - are in on it. There are no legal systems that haven’t been undermined to make this very thing possible.

            Hitler wasn’t elected, but he came in second and was appointed Chancellor by the incumbent president as per tradition because the Nazis were elected as the majority party in the Reichstag. Sound familiar? A minority party working their way into a leadership role that gave them full control of the country? At its height, the Nazi party made up about 15% of the German population. 15% was all it took to bring the entire world into one of the worst wars in history that left the Jewish population so decimated that they have only returned to pre-WW2 levels within the past 20 or so years. Republicans are not a majority party either and would actually never hold any major office again if votes were counted fairly. 60% of Americans are more leftist than the government at any given time - even when the Democrats hold power.

            So why didn’t the Germans fight back against the Nazi party as things got bad? Trick question. They did. With guns, too. Except the Nazis had a quasi military force already deployed in order to put down any opposition. Sounds familiar? Because the US had that long before ICE and the DHS (who are both governmental bodies beholden to no-one) were formed following 9/11. Our police are a bunch of schoolyard bullies with surplus military hardware donated by the army or bought from the government and military industrial complex, taught to shoot first and ask never. Did you know that it’s a war crime to use tear gas? It’s considered chemical warfare. Except when you use it against your own citizens, then it’s okay. And they were born with itchy trigger fingers. Especially against anybody with skin a shade darker than pasteurized milk. Deporting people for looking too Mexican? We did that in the 50s, under Eisenhower. It was called Operation Wetback. We rounded up US citizens using military tactics and tossed them over the border into Mexico.

            The government and corporations destroyed our unions and social support systems in order to erode worker’s rights and ensure loyalty through dependence. People often talk about how much money Americans make, but don’t see that the CoL is so much higher here that we’re worse off than any European country in terms of quality of life. The average lifespan of the average American has decreased for several years consecutively and is now equivalent to that of the average lifespan of the worst area of the UK. Americans are the most likely to die from preventable dieseases because we can’t afford preventative care. If you take the average cost of a house in any county in the country and compare it to the average salary in that same area, you’ll find that there is not a single place in the US where the average salary can buy a house. We are a 3rd world nation in a Prada belt.

            So don’t blame the people working with sticks and stones for not having stemmed the tide, blame the people trying to smash down the shitty dam with hammers and the people who set the course of the river.

            As a trans woman, I’d rather take my chances charging ICE agents with a knife than trust you lot to have my back in any way, shape, or form. I’ve seen what you think of us who are trapped here. Over and over.

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      Sorry if we’d like some firmer response to your country attacking our economy and threatening invasion

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        Sorry if I’d like ANY response to the attacks on trans people across Europe, the UK, Canada, and plenty of other places.

        I want people out there like the Black Panthers, too. I want Europe to divest themselves from the American military industrial complex. I want to watch American companies who support and enable these fascists see their profits shrivel up as the economy collapses. I want to watch Google and Facebook and Twitter burn.

        But all I hear from Europeans on here is how all Americans are fascists for not being in open war with the regime while fascism tightens its grip on your own right-wing parties, and I’m sick of it. If you’re not proactive, you’ll be in the same boat as us. Italy had fascist gangs attacking people in the streets a few years back. We used to say “it could never happen here” when reading about Nazi Germany and wondering just how they could let it happen. And then it did happen here. Now you’re the ones saying it.

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      You seem to be hating on Europeans. I would practice some self enquiry.

      Being this soft to literal fascism and fascists is not a good look. They are literally kidnapping children. Killing people. Blinding people. They are waging wars. Calling them literal nazis is appropriate. They are removing your healthcare or making it prohibitively expensive. They are stealing from you. Not only your health but also your money. Pump and dump schemes, etc. Last, but definitely not least, they are protecting each other. Each one of them is evil beyond comprehension and they are all playing together, protecting eachother. Your president is a pedophile. He is not only part but also probably one of the main people, of a ring of pedophiles.

      Your hate towards Europeans is misplaced. All we want is justice and a good society.

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        I am hating on Europeans. Because Europeans have been hating on me and mine for almost a year now, regardless of what people do here.

        Fascist gangs were roaming the streets of Italy a few years ago. Your fascist parties have been waging war against trans people like me for over a decade. Where is your resistance to them? Your solidarity with the weakest amongst you?

        European hate is misplaced. All we want is justice and a good society, but we have to fight against 70 years of work to destroy our ability to fight as well as the ignorant and hateful minority of the populace who support these fuckers, and they’re the ones the most willing to commit acts of terrorism. The people protesting are the average person who balks at the thought of fist-fighting in the street.

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      It was true when I said it and I’m proud of everyone for what they’ve achieved since then.

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        The protests last year were some of the largest in US history. There have been smaller protests popping up constantly since the first few months of the regime.

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      TBF, news outlets have been utterly ignoring þe country-wide protests which have been consistently happening practically since Trump took office. Almost none of þe enormous 50502 protests have been covered. If we’re not seeing it on American media, even fewer international people are going to see it.

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        Imagine if there were mediums . . . Like something social in nature. . . Hmmm, what to call it? Oh, I know! Social media! Now, imagine if citizens could, you know, post stuff on said social media, like en masse. Because lots of ‘enormous’protests that are ‘consistently happening’ would get attention, right? I mean, network media doesn’t gatekeep what the populace posts, right?

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          I believe þat you, like me, live in someþing of an echo chamber. Þe fact þat we’re communicating on Fediverse automatically puts us in a largely left-ist bubble.

          Most people are not on þe Fediverse. A great many don’t use social media at all for news or entertainment - þey’re on LinkedIn, but þey watch þe news on TV for news. Or þey’re on Facebook, or X, which eiþer also ignore or spin þe protests toward þe government narrative.

          We’re not discussing how to get word out; we’re discussing why people outside þe US have a perception Americans are passively accepting þe slide into fascist dictatorship. I mean, because, we are passively accepting it. Protests don’t seem to be doing anyþing, and nobody’s shot back at ICE yet.

          Your argument is to use þe Fediverse specifically to broadcast news. X will censor or ban you, and þe Facebook algorithm will bury you. TikTok is now effectively controlled by Trump. I don’t know how BlueSky fits into it yet, but it’s still operating as a centralized platform. Almost nobody, comparably, is using þe Threadiverse.

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    Heh, I can actually pick myself out in that picture.

    And just to confirm, yes, it was really fucking cold out.

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    This is amazing but the protests need to be sustained until things change. Nothing will change if you set a date for when the protests end.

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      Protests in Minnesota have been going on constantly every day in multiple places, the media is just hardly reporting on it. They are not small either. People have also formed entire network to monitor ICE and make sure that people can respond fast anywhere they go

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        this right here. every news source is refering to that crowd as “thousands”. most protests dont even get a mention in local papers.

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      The problem here, as in local to Minnesota, is it’s too local. It’s easy for authorities to gather enough resources for 1 city.

      But Minnesotans are likely the only population that’s been brought to the breaking point just yet. (Trump spite for Walz, probably.)

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        im sure most of whats happening here isnt getting past the geofencing and content mods in regular social media. but they have not had enough resources to control even individual neighborhoods. even after bringing in more agents than the entire combined police force of the most populated metro area in the state. every increase in violance by ice drives more volunteers into community patrols. the administration cant subdue one medium sized midwestern city. they’re weak and its showing.

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          the administration cant subdue one medium sized midwestern city.

          They’re not trying to. In fact, they are explicitly trying not to. The whole point of the rapid expansion of ICE, the untrained government thugs, the unlawful tactics, is to instigate violence. So Trump can declare martial law, and deploy the military against the citizenry. They’re not trying to hide it, Trump himself keeps talking about declaring martial law, there’s no reason to not be aware.

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            thats what they picked minneapolis for. expected some nice viral moments of vilent protests like we’ve had and a big show of force putting us down. an all they’re gonna get is footage of the ice director parancing around town at gas stations. if they send in the military, and yes i have zero doubt they want too. they have to know for a fact they have one willing too start shooting its own citizens. because they’ll have too. and trump backs his ass down off threats of that faster than he folds on attacks abroad. im not saying this isnt an active terror campaign. it absolutely is. armed men in masks have been stalking the grocery store i shop at the past three days. i know they want violance in return for that. im just also saying they are beatable with wistles and cameras.

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    Why are they wearing face covering masks. How can a actual officer be distinguished from a impersonating one? ICE seems like a good cover for anyone doing actual kidnappings!!

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    Now if only they’d march on local ICE agents and make “citizen’s arrests” of the fucking unamerican, constitution violating pigfucks.

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      That would result in tons of arrests, probably some death. There is absolutely not agreement that what they’re doing is illegal. A third of the country voted for this and wilon the election.

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    How do you guys think Trump will try staying in power? You think it will be an attack on the parliament again? This time with a bigger goon squad?

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      Here’s the neat part - we did! Minnesota is pretty consistently the top state for voter turnout. The rest of you need to quit slacking and get on our level, lol.

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      I remember watching interviews at some dumb “The 2020 election was stolen” nazi rally. So many of those MAGAts admitted to not even voting. Americans are just the worst at voting. It’s either not voting because of apathy or some selfish purity justification, or they vote for corporate enablers. Then everyone gathers around and bitches about the shitshow.

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    It bears mentioning that none of this would have been necessary if people have gone out and VOTED in numbers like these.

    Instead they first passively threw a tantrum enabling this Gestapo, now their country is a global pariah, not to be trusted again, while expending so much more energy, experiencing much more inconvenience and risk than voting, just to send a symbolic message to sociopaths who have the power, enjoy abusing it, and do NOT care to listen.

    Which is to say: this is meaningless, voting is everything and you blew it yet again. But people insist on wanting to be inspired by one godking figurehead, refusing to understand how consistently voting just one day a year, in presidentials, midterms and off-years, is how political momentum is built or eroded, how a government is not one godking president, but an entire system with hundreds of thousands of civil servants, elected, appointed and hired, at every level of government, momentum builds slowly.

    If Democrats ever win again, it will be with one hand tied behind their back, facing right-wing sabotage every step of the way, just as has happened every time since Jimmy Carter, and if they can’t wave a magic political wand and fix this unfixable mess in one go, the oh-so-precious impatient electorate is going to throw yet another destructive tantrum and back to square minus five or worse.

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      This is decades in the making. Voting got us here. Couch surfing got us here. It doesn’t fuckin matter what got us here. Be helpful, be supportive, get out and take your rights however you see fit (peaceful or not) or shut the fuck up already. Blame needs to come later. The horse is dead.

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        Voting wrong got us here. Of course it matters what got us here. It matters a lot.

        It’s interesting that when people remind you of that you want them to shut up and spur them out of the trenches

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      Voting can stop you from going backwards, but voting alone is not enough. It will not fix the mess we are in by itself. It’s vote and take action not vote or take action. There is absolutely not time to wait for elections. Voting is important, but it has to be done with other action or the country will not survive

      Minnesota is also in the middle of general strike today as well. Statewide, for the first time in almost 100 years. Economic power matter, and people are starting to use their leverage there in a real meaningful way

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      Please grow the fuck up. The majority of people who didn’t vote for Harris weren’t, “throwing a tantrum.” They were tired, working class people who didn’t feel that voting would improve their lives and didn’t want to waste their time on it.

      Election day is not a holiday in this country. Mail-in voting is not available in many states. Voting is a hardship, one which is most felt by working-class voters making hourly, minimum wage. If you want those people to vote for you, you have to give them something to vote for.

      How did the Democrats do that? Well, first they ran an 80-year-old man that the majority of their voters didn’t want running in an essentially unchallenged primary. Then, when the cognitive issues his team were clearly hiding spilled out on national TV, they allowed him to dig his heals in and stay in the race until the 11th hour. When he finally dropped out, they replaced him with a candidate who failed to win a single primary state and had her campaign with Republicans because they decided it was better for her to appeal to conservatives than her base. Oh, and they wouldn’t stop funding a genocide, can’t forget that.

      It is not the voters job to get politicians elected; it is literally the exact opposite of that. The Democrats did a spectacularly bad job in 2024, and the fact that the people associated with the administration and the campaign still have influence within the party is absurd and disgusting. Point the blame at those who deserve it.