Most people don’t seem to be able to view both sides as bad. I feel for civilians on all sides, because they are the ones dying and suffering. Caught between murderous assholes.
I can’t think of anyone who thinks any side is good except the brainless sycophants who believe the lies from trump and his Ministry of Truth. Maybe it’s because of my time on Lemmy, but people seem to understand that Iran is shitty, but not shitty enough to manufacture the excuses to do what trump is doing.
Feel exactly the same as an american. No one here wanted to get involved. It defies party lines, literally no one wants it. We had the largest protest in our country’s history on Saturday and they will do nothing. It wastes billions of our tax dollars while our people can’t afford food. Its a couple of dozen people at the absolute top who are pulling the levers here, while ignoring what the people want.
Exactly the problem unfortunately. It’s extremely demoralizing. I’m still proud, like I said the largest protest in our history, I’ve never seen more Americans this motivated before, but I hope the organizers plan to do something. They don’t care about protests. They just let them go knowing everyone will go back to work the next morning. However, if they go too far the propaganda machine will simply pick up and say whatever it needs to and people eat it up happily. My uncle steadfastly believes that the majority of protesters are in fact “paid actors”. Millions of paid actors. Billions of dollars spent on it obviously.
Yeah, all these Americans were just minding their own business, basing their whole economy on pillaging oil from any part of the world they can, doing nothing wrong of course though.
So innocent, just driving around in their pickup trucks blasting propaganda from their radios, then rushing home to watch more on their television.
Can’t we just leave the Americans alone so they can pretend they aren’t the shittiest group of people on earth?
That makes sense, they seemed mad for about a day about the gas prices and now I guess they just grabbed a bottle of lube instead of demanding it stop.
Meanwhile I actually know personally TWO people who went out and bought EVs! In car centric transit deserts where they have to drive. Both had some form of “I’ve been debating a new car for a while and this made my decision not to use gas”. So a very thin silver lining that people are at least thinking about it.
The Iran war is all a big ruse from Big Musky to sell more Teslas? I’m joking of course, but there is some Technate of America ties there. More so with Venezuela, Cuba, Columbia, Ecuador, and Greenland. But that’s way too deep of a rabbit hole…
So if you don’t want it, why aren’t you stopping it or trying to overthrow the government? Your biggest protest was 2% or so of the population.
~98% don’t give a shit, they might care about their petrol prices but that’s it. Dead Iranian children and US foreign policy isn’t a deal breaker for them.
fuck off. fuck all the way off until you’ve walked a mile in our shoes. im not taking this european judgement anymore. come over here and show us how we should be doing it, big boy.
france is a fraction of the size and population of america. if we were that small and homogeneous, we would probably be able to be more effective too. the best equivalent would be expecting the entire EU to organize and protest as one large country.
No, it’s your fucking responsibility to fix your nation and you pathetic fucks only give a shit about voting every few years despite the fact that its never once fixed you being the most reprehensible evil nation on the planet.
Go fucking vote harder, maybe you can get another dronebama to bring about fake change as he bombs middle eastern kids.
yeah, its not a binary bad/good issue and it never has been. Most issues arent, they are about proportion. Islam is poor on womens and gay rights for example, but that doesnt mean any person murdering muslims is simply off the hook because Israel generally does better on those issues (assuming the woman or gay person is not muslim, in which case israel says to murder them)
People these days who claim that Israeli crimes are fine because Muslim countries have problems are victims or perpetrators of Israeli propoganda, all with the net goal of land theft to build a greater israel. All of the middle east’s murders and war crimes are about acquiring oil and land theft. And while there may not be any 100% good guys, there are some really really REALLY bad guys, and western governments are siding with the greatest evils in the region.
Most people don’t seem to be able to view both sides as bad. I feel for civilians on all sides, because they are the ones dying and suffering. Caught between murderous assholes.
most westerners don’t seem to be able to view the empire eclipses every other evil in the world by a big margin.
I can’t think of anyone who thinks any side is good except the brainless sycophants who believe the lies from trump and his Ministry of Truth. Maybe it’s because of my time on Lemmy, but people seem to understand that Iran is shitty, but not shitty enough to manufacture the excuses to do what trump is doing.
Feel exactly the same as an american. No one here wanted to get involved. It defies party lines, literally no one wants it. We had the largest protest in our country’s history on Saturday and they will do nothing. It wastes billions of our tax dollars while our people can’t afford food. Its a couple of dozen people at the absolute top who are pulling the levers here, while ignoring what the people want.
You can’t be the victim and perpetrator at the same time.
It didn’t defy party lines either, a quarter of American citizens are suicidally/homicidally religious and they support the war.
TBH i dont think that those at the top care what you want…
Exactly the problem unfortunately. It’s extremely demoralizing. I’m still proud, like I said the largest protest in our history, I’ve never seen more Americans this motivated before, but I hope the organizers plan to do something. They don’t care about protests. They just let them go knowing everyone will go back to work the next morning. However, if they go too far the propaganda machine will simply pick up and say whatever it needs to and people eat it up happily. My uncle steadfastly believes that the majority of protesters are in fact “paid actors”. Millions of paid actors. Billions of dollars spent on it obviously.
Ah yea americans are the victims
Yeah, all these Americans were just minding their own business, basing their whole economy on pillaging oil from any part of the world they can, doing nothing wrong of course though.
So innocent, just driving around in their pickup trucks blasting propaganda from their radios, then rushing home to watch more on their television.
Can’t we just leave the Americans alone so they can pretend they aren’t the shittiest group of people on earth?
It doesn’t defy party lines any more. MAGA just took a few weeks to receive their newest orders from daddy.
That makes sense, they seemed mad for about a day about the gas prices and now I guess they just grabbed a bottle of lube instead of demanding it stop.
Meanwhile I actually know personally TWO people who went out and bought EVs! In car centric transit deserts where they have to drive. Both had some form of “I’ve been debating a new car for a while and this made my decision not to use gas”. So a very thin silver lining that people are at least thinking about it.
The Iran war is all a big ruse from Big Musky to sell more Teslas? I’m joking of course, but there is some Technate of America ties there. More so with Venezuela, Cuba, Columbia, Ecuador, and Greenland. But that’s way too deep of a rabbit hole…
So if you don’t want it, why aren’t you stopping it or trying to overthrow the government? Your biggest protest was 2% or so of the population.
~98% don’t give a shit, they might care about their petrol prices but that’s it. Dead Iranian children and US foreign policy isn’t a deal breaker for them.
fuck off. fuck all the way off until you’ve walked a mile in our shoes. im not taking this european judgement anymore. come over here and show us how we should be doing it, big boy.
I mean, to be fair, France does show us like once every few years
france is a fraction of the size and population of america. if we were that small and homogeneous, we would probably be able to be more effective too. the best equivalent would be expecting the entire EU to organize and protest as one large country.
No, it’s your fucking responsibility to fix your nation and you pathetic fucks only give a shit about voting every few years despite the fact that its never once fixed you being the most reprehensible evil nation on the planet.
Go fucking vote harder, maybe you can get another dronebama to bring about fake change as he bombs middle eastern kids.
oh wow i didnt realize it was that easy. my fucking bad.
Youve done jack shit to date, so dont know what you expect to happen. Have some fucking accountability.
okay buddy
Dont murder any more children on your way out American.
yeah, its not a binary bad/good issue and it never has been. Most issues arent, they are about proportion. Islam is poor on womens and gay rights for example, but that doesnt mean any person murdering muslims is simply off the hook because Israel generally does better on those issues (assuming the woman or gay person is not muslim, in which case israel says to murder them)
People these days who claim that Israeli crimes are fine because Muslim countries have problems are victims or perpetrators of Israeli propoganda, all with the net goal of land theft to build a greater israel. All of the middle east’s murders and war crimes are about acquiring oil and land theft. And while there may not be any 100% good guys, there are some really really REALLY bad guys, and western governments are siding with the greatest evils in the region.
Talked like a true first worlder not brave enough to pick between genociders and genocidees.
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