In the latest episode of “they will always sell you out” - they sold you out! Who would’ve thought.
Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can’t exist without “leeching” off of Bitwarden.
Jesus, I’m tired of switching password managers.
KeePassXC + KeePassDX is probably the best option, with the downside of no way to sync easily (syncthing is probably the best option there)
I might switch back at some point, been getting frustrated with the bitwarden extension performance always being so poor.
Sync however you want. Syncthing, Nextcloud, Dropbox, Gdrive etc.
KeePass isn’t going anywhere. They’re also dragging their feet on passkey support, so you might go with KeepassXC.
Yeah, there was. It was forked because of that, actually: https://codeberg.org/ChiPass.
They also don’t effectively allow collaboration though, which is my cheif reason for using a cloud hosted password manager.
Took me like 5 minutes to move back to KeepassXC.
Every company is basically evil at this point.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
This is why corporate promises can never be trusted, because a new CEO can change those promises on a whim.
It’s part of why despite being interested in Beeper, I never signed up for it because I had questions about if those privacy promises they made would be kept if they sold to a bigger company… which they eventually did.
On the plus side Bitwarden already made an official open source self-hosted version, which can be forked and/or return to the community developed Vaultwarden roots.
Meanwhile KeepassXC keeps on chugging along.
That’s troubling, I don’t like what this portends.
The new CEOs background especially suggests they’re spiffing up the company for a later sellout, why else would they pick a merger specialist for the role?
Oh no, and I just setup Vaultwarden
I think the original title was more helpful because it shows that this is a recent development. Maybe you can add new CEO?
Bitwarden scrubs ‘Always free’ and ‘Inclusion’ values from its website as longtime execs step down
In February, longtime CEO Michael Crandell moved to an advisory role, according to LinkedIn, with no announcement from the company. His replacement, Michael Sullivan, former CEO of both Acquia and Insightsoftware, touts his experience with “all facets of mergers and acquisitions” on his own LinkedIn page, including experience working with leading private equity firms.
CFO Stephen Morrison also left Bitwarden in April, replaced by former InVision CEO Michael Shenkman. Both Crandell and Morrison joined the company in 2019. Kyle Spearrin, who started Bitwarden as a fun hobby project in 2015, remains the company’s CTO.
You’re right, changed
Damn I guess I’m going back to keepass again since I am not really interested in hosting a vault
Well, poop.
Clue me in on why vaultwarden can’t exist without it?
It can, but vaultwarden, as it currently is, is an implementation of the server only. So if bitwarden decides to go closed source all the way, they’d haver to start either creating their own clients or fork the current bitwarden clients.
https://bitwarden.com/pricing/
I kind of find the headline a bit disingenuous. However, if they do move to a non-free model, I’d still pay for it. I mean $1.65/Month USD. Sure, I don’t even have to think about it.
Funny thing is I clicked the link and “Always free.” was gone. Refreshed the page and it was back. Definitely something going on.
<shrug> It was there when I went and took a screen shot without refreshing.
yeah fuck that… fuck subscriptions ALL OF THEM. fucn these companies, ALL OF THEM.
stop giving any of these pricks any slack. none of them deserve it, nor money.
today it’s 1.65… tomorrow it’s 4.99… next week it’s 12.99… stop being a mindless sheep giving them any sort of leeway. you’re enabling the scammers to literally scam you more, and more and more.
I’m relocating all my shit right now because we’ll… fuck em. I am loyal to NO COMPANY. none of them deserve anything but bankruptcy at a minimum.
I’ve cut down my subscriptions by a lot over the past few years, and I’ve gotten very close to what I consider a minimum. Whenever possible, I like to buy outright.
However, surely you can understand how not every product can function as a one time purchase. For something like a password manager, they are providing an ongoing service. They are storing and serving your data.
You can self host, sure, and I’m doing a lot of that lately. But not everyone has the capacity or desire to.
All that said, this leadership shakeup is concerning and I think I’ll be migrating to Proton, since I already have a Duo plan.
today it’s 1.65… tomorrow it’s 4.99… next week it’s 12.99… stop being a mindless sheep giving them any sort of leeway. you’re enabling the scammers to literally scam you more, and more and more.
‘Mindless sheep’. That’s hilarious. But I get it. Nobody likes to pay for shit.
I mean, when we see the same pattern of endless subscription creep and price hikes on virtually every service… saying “but it’s only [insert dollars here]” does sound pretty out of touch.
It’s not ‘out of touch’. It’s paying for (if it comes to that) a service that houses all of my business accounts, investment accounts, personal accounts, etc, and all with a pretty damn good track record. As with any technology, you must constantly evaluate it to see if what you are spending is justified for the service you are receiving. If at such time I feel the service isn’t worth the price, then sure. As of now, it’s not really an issue to me.
Sure. I think a lot of people just see that constant evaluation as postponing the inevitable, though (again, because the same pattern is everywhere). It’s not acknowledging that part which seems out of touch.
It’s not acknowledging that part which seems out of touch.
I assure you, I am fully cognizant of what for-profit corporations do. It’s one of the reasons I turned off the TV over two decades ago. There just wasn’t any ROI for me.
Baaaaaaa.
Man, I tell you, I wish I could live in a fantasy world where everything is free.
Not sure about “everything”, but plenty of password managers are.
There are a handful of things I do not self host.
- arr stack
- password managers
- anything financial
