• garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    2SLGBTQIA+ is a result of being more inclusionary, and it is the standard for the Canadian government. The 2S at the front represents two-spirit people, which is a term that Indigenous people use (also why it was placed at the front, as a sign of respect since they were here before everyone else). The QIA+ are literally additions to include queer (which is a catchall), intersex (who were previously medicalized and excluded), and agender/asexual/aromantic people (who have historically been excluded/ignored), and the + obviously is to include anyone who doesnt feel reflected by the other letters. This is literally the least exclusionary way to do it.

    GSRM has been attempted many times but framing people as minorities when providing allegedly inclusive terminology is generally out of fashion.

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      20 hours ago

      The acronym system is anti queer philosophically relies on strict taxonomies and fundamentally hierarchal exclusionary while not telling us why these people are lumped together their issues have so much in common its really liberally stupid and as as queer I take offense

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        16 hours ago

        I used to be uncomfortable with using queer as a self-descriptor, but TBH I’m getting to be in agreement with you these days.

        Now I’m wondering about getting a T-shirt with it on, for pride (or any other day I don’t mind stirring the pot)

    • I’m aware of what it stands for. But using ‘A’ as a catchall for several identities means aro-spec identities are still frequently neglected, allies try to claim it just stands for them instead of ace, aro, and/or agender people, so its still ends up being exclusive in practice while just being unnecessarily long given its failure to achieve the intended goal.

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        19 hours ago

        The plus sign being where it is probably contributes to it being seen as a catch-all, even though it’s not supposed to be; the acronym goes LGBTQIAA…

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        19 hours ago

        Idk, as an ace person, I personally appreciate it. I don’t really care if allies try to claim it because they are wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯