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    This is something we should honestly ignore and show a big fat middle finger to anything Epic ever does with Linux until Tim Sweeney is gone.

    The company has been actively undermining Linux gaming for years, and they’re only switching gears because it is now convenient and profitable to do si

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      If you care about Indie games, you should definitely support them to put some pressure on valve in regards to:

      • lowering their 30% cut for lower revenue (so something like first 100k free). Right now they lower it only for high grossing games
      • allowing to have lower prices on other platforms. That’s genuinely monopoly behavior and I do hope they lose their lawsuits in this regard.
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        Why support epic games when itch.io exists? The platform asks you how much of your profit you want to give it (it does have a heart that turns gray if you choose 0% though). It doesnt have many of the most popular indie games, but it seems like the best option if available

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        They should have different tiers for the 30% cut, but they offer developers much more than any other platform. It’s all bundled in their universal 30% cut.

        Regarding your second point, they can have lower prices on other platforms. They just can’t sell steam keys for less on other platforms.

        For example, I can sell a game for $30 on steam, a steam key for $30 on another platform, or the same game for $10 but with no steam key on another platform.

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        GOG was worth supporting for that reason ( until their recent little Nazi incident…) but Epic is far worse for the games industry than anything steam has ever done. Holding games hostage exclusive to try and force people to use their shitty platform is much worse than steam saying the steam price has to match the lowest price off-steam…

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    I’m really glad for all Valve has done for Linux, but Microsoft is not the monopoly it once was. Chromebooks are the new frontier and Epic is the one taking on the Play Store monopoly.

    Add in GOG to the mix with their anti-DRM advocacy and I’m left with a tough choice for who I would rather my 30% store tax to go to.

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        Chromebooks are what everyone’s using in school. Windows is in a state, and if businesses are going to replace it they sure as hell aren’t going to use Linux (too informal) or MacOS (too locked down).

        For individual users, something like 90% of internet browsing is on mobile devices so Android and iOS have already won over Windows bigtime.

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          Chromebooks are what everyone’s using in school

          Hi European person here. We’re not dumbfuckistan (US) so cut your US defaultism. Our school PC usually run Windows 7 or later.

          Oh and we also don’t use school equipment for gaming with Epic Games…

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      Simple, look at what they invest the money in. Valve pays Proton developers and Linux support, GoG makes some ads about no DRM and invests something on preservation of games, Epic invests money on suing other companies and getting exclusives. Decide which of those is more important to you and spend money there.

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      Epic charges less than 30%. I think it was 10-15%. That’s their whole selling point. And when I say it is their whole selling point, I do genuinely mean it, because the platform and software itself are pretty bad compared to Steam.

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        And their business practices as well. Bringing store exclusivity to the PC games market and paying publishers to delay launches on other stores is not something I want to support.

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          And they do everything they can to avoid any upgrades to their store. It took them 2 fucking years to add a cart to make multiple purchases at the same time. Before, if you wanted to buy a game and all its DLC, you had to purchase each of them separately.

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          I never understood why console players always get so worked up about exclusives. People say the stupidest most absolutely nonsensical things like “the PS5 has no games”. What the hell do you mean?? The PS5 has lots of games, you’re just salty that other people can play those games too. Why can’t people just be happy that more people can enjoy the games? They have to have that feeling of superiority I suppose

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            IMO, the PS5 doesn’t have any games that make it special in contrast to PC. Every game I have on my PS5 is also available on PC. The only console maker which really has exclusives is Nintendo, and personally I hate the concept of exclusives. It would be best if every platform would have the same games. I guess nobody would buy consoles than because of their Online services BS like PS Plus which is expensive or Nintendo Switch Online which uses P2P in 2026…

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          I don’t really care about timed exclusivity, especially when it’s just downloading a different launcher. Permanent exclusivity, or worse eventual unavailability I do care about though.

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          Satisfactory would have never existed otherwise. They got paid a lot for exclusivity, which allowed them to become so polished.

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      I mean… for me:

      Try GOG first, see if a game is available there. Then Epic (once it gets Linux support). Then Steam 3rd party stores like Fanatical. Then Steam

      Seems pretty simple to me, personally.

      • I’d rather pay for DRM-free and an offline archive, always. The installers are trivially easy to use with Proton.

      • If not, then I’d rather pay the devs more than the store if I have a choice (though no Linux muddies this).

      • If not, I’ll take the slight discount over Steam if there is one.

      • Failing all that, just buy on Steam.

      And in reality, the vast majority of my purchases are on Steam anyway, because that’s generally the only place the games I’m interested in are available to buy.

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    Cool as long as it doesn’t fuck up third party launchers like Heroic then I am fine with it. Well not as much fine with it as much as I couldn’t give less of a shit but same thing kinda.