• Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Wrong agency.

    I don’t understand this defeatous mentality. If LGBTQ+ employees just quit, who will stand up for their rights? Telling LGBTQ+ people to quit is anti-LGBTQ+ itself!

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      6 hours ago

      Bigger picture, why work for the United States government if it’s going to continue to erode and eliminate your rights? Anyone with half a brain could see where the US was and is headed. I never said they should quit, I’m saying they never should have applied

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        5 hours ago

        What you’re saying is that the ship is sinking but we should stand back and let other people try to save it. The only way for change is to be involved directly.

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          4 hours ago

          Nope. I’m saying don’t apply for a job working for the captain of the ship when he is publicly killing people he’s doesn’t like and doesn’t care if the ship sinks or not

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      6 hours ago

      CIA will never support LGBTQIAPoC+ rights.
      You’re correct, wrong agency, wrong branch.
      Now tell a Demagogue to support queer siblings of color.
      What’s AIPAC?

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          5 hours ago

          Exploiting them*
          They never owned the means of their espionage.

          Pls🙏 pls🙏 don’t tell me you’re politically illiterate too.

          Last thread we engaged in, I tried to my best to keep an honest conversation going, but you kept disinforming the public on what executive and legislative branches do, and how they acquire intel. If you will reengage in disinformation here, I will not entertain it. I only responded to Zen_Shinobi, knowing the he is a spy too, to see if he can reflect.

          I am not so sure what are your political affiliations, and your praxis to achieve them. Do I even want to know?

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            5 hours ago

            I’m a spy? lmao good one.

            You do realize, the CIA had gender inclusive bathrooms and legal protections that prevented this discrimination. In fact at least 200 emplyees were LGBTQ+, which all of this was mentioned in the article, that you didn’t read. It wasn’t until Drump came in and reversed all of that.

            You’re right, no government agency is an ally as they fall under whatever policy their mayor/governor/president tells them to do. Same as companies/corperations.

            This is just a repeat of the '50’s lavender scare.

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              5 hours ago

              the CIA had gender inclusive bathrooms and legal protections that prevented this discrimination.

              How do we know this🤔?

              article, that you didn’t read

              I find this ignorance amusing, when 🧵 I engaged in three facts of this 🌈timeline✨ omitted to mention. But since when did you need an employer to support your rights‽

              no government agency is an ally

              I distinctly disagreed. Reread my response to you. Pls🙏 don’t also admit you’re politically ignorant too. I want to see if you are conscious on who supports femboy rights.

              50’s lavender scare.

              Witch trials*. But what do I know, coven rights are only for protestants.

              Satire aside, what demagogue has your side?

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                5 hours ago

                You still have yet to read the article that you are arguing against.

                Go be homophobic somewhere else!

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                  4 hours ago

                  Amazing. Now you’re denying both my literature, and my black anarchism, in my pronouns label, which lemmy doesn’t display.

                  The question:

                  How do we know this🤔?

                  was rhetorical:

                  how do we, as an audience, can verify the claims of Trace Ballard, Julia Curlee, Todd Johannessen?

                  Since I see you’re not interested in engaging in good faith, I will disengage. Make another post in !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com if you want to engage earnestly on what it means to liberate our queer siblings. Demagogues are only interested in money.

          • Florencia (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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            4 hours ago

            Owning the means of their espionage. I don’t know how much more owning it could get?

            I don’t think I’m politically illiterate.

            What disinformation did I give?

            Do I even want to know?

            Only you can answer that.

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              4 hours ago

              Are you aware what class is, and how conscious society is?

              What disinformation did I give?

              we will not reengage this.

              Only you can answer that.

              This was more of “are you willing to engage in your policies being criticized, or should I disengage my curiosity”? I don’t enjoy questioning those unwilling to reflect.

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                3 hours ago

                Are you aware what class is, and how conscious society is?

                No to both.

                we will not reengage this

                Linking to a thread is not enough. What disinformation did I give?

                This was more of “are you willing to engage in your policies being criticized, or should I disengage my curiosity”?

                I think I’ve been engaging in good faith with you. Keeping your curiosity engaged is something only you can answer. I’m pretty curious seeing your replies.

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                  1 hour ago

                  No to both.

                  Then I pray you acquire more political education. Here’s my starter.

                  I’m pretty curious seeing your replies.

                  In black anarchism? Sure, we can engage it in Zen_Shinobi’s !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com post. Unless you feel he’s not up to it, you can create one of your own. In Pylova&Piefed, users can see my politics right next to my display name. Which is why I found Zen_Shinobi’s accusation concerning. He would have found I am <img src=“https://quokk.au/static/media/flags/CX/Xw/CXXwso1tg0uTymG.webp” alt=“pansexual pride flag” width=“16” height=“auto”> with pride😘.

                  • Florencia (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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                    3 hours ago

                    Then I pray you acquire more political education. Here’s my starter.

                    Nah, I’m good.

                    In black anarchism? Sure, we can engage it in Zen_Shinobi’s !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com post. Unless you feel he’s not up to it, you can create one of your own. In Pylova&Piefed, users can see my politics right next to my display name. Which is why I found Zen_Shinobi’s accusation concerning. He would have found I am with pride😘.

                    You misunderstand. I am curious to see all your replies to me.