You call it “stupid shit.” But you’re in a comment section. At the very top of your screen in big text is a headline referring to Elliot Page as he. You read that and still called him “they.” And you’re bullshitting about primarily using “they” for people. On your own profile, just on the first two of comments, you had no problem correctly gendering:
Sinon (Elliot Page’s character.)
Donald Trump
Mitch McConnell
Ayn Rand
Tony Robbins
Hasan Piker
The people you refer to as “they”:
Groups of people like “the cops.”
Unknown individuals
Elliot Page
From the first two pages of comments on your account, you primarily use they to refer to groups of people or unknown individuals. I only went through the first two pages, but from that sample, the only specific known individual you referred to as “they” was Elliot Page. You even managed to gender his character correctly. His character is a he. He gets demoted to a they.
It’s easy to dismiss the concerns of a minority group. But degendering is a well-known phenomenon. Even many people who consider themselves allies engage in it. Go to any story involving a trans person, and you will find numerous people referring the person as “they,” even if their pronouns are prominently featured in the story. And this pattern only happens with stories involving trans individuals.
Many allies are performative allies only. They don’t actually see trans identities as fundamentally legitimate. They don’t actually see a trans woman as a woman or a trans man as a man, but they still want the brownie points of being “an ally.” They won’t say overtly transphobic things, but they’ll engage in micro-aggressions like degendering trans people. Every trans person has experienced firsthand how the number of people that refer to them as “they” increases exponentially after they come out, even if they have a clearly stated binary gender identity.
This has the same vibe as white folks who feel they can’t be racist as long as they’re not engaging in overt racial prejudice.
Elliot’s preferred pronouns are he/they. It’s perfectly acceptable to use they to refer to him, as per his own stated preference. Please don’t disrespect that.
Sure, you can find that bit of trivia online, but he almost exclusively goes by he in his professional work and life. He seems to be his regular pronoun, with they stated as acceptable. But he is a binary trans man. Truthfully his “he/they” seems like when some trans people say that to accommodate cis people, not a genuine statement of identity. We’re talking about a binary trans man who won’t get offended if a cis person calls him they, if they simply can’t bring themselves to use he. This isn’t the case of a someone with an enby identity.
But this is a distraction from the real discusdion here. From context, it was obvious the person I called out was engaging in degendering. You can read between the lines. They didn’t take the time to research Elliot’s pronouns first. They just reflexively degendered him.
You call it “stupid shit.” But you’re in a comment section. At the very top of your screen in big text is a headline referring to Elliot Page as he. You read that and still called him “they.” And you’re bullshitting about primarily using “they” for people. On your own profile, just on the first two of comments, you had no problem correctly gendering:
The people you refer to as “they”:
From the first two pages of comments on your account, you primarily use they to refer to groups of people or unknown individuals. I only went through the first two pages, but from that sample, the only specific known individual you referred to as “they” was Elliot Page. You even managed to gender his character correctly. His character is a he. He gets demoted to a they.
It’s easy to dismiss the concerns of a minority group. But degendering is a well-known phenomenon. Even many people who consider themselves allies engage in it. Go to any story involving a trans person, and you will find numerous people referring the person as “they,” even if their pronouns are prominently featured in the story. And this pattern only happens with stories involving trans individuals.
Many allies are performative allies only. They don’t actually see trans identities as fundamentally legitimate. They don’t actually see a trans woman as a woman or a trans man as a man, but they still want the brownie points of being “an ally.” They won’t say overtly transphobic things, but they’ll engage in micro-aggressions like degendering trans people. Every trans person has experienced firsthand how the number of people that refer to them as “they” increases exponentially after they come out, even if they have a clearly stated binary gender identity.
This has the same vibe as white folks who feel they can’t be racist as long as they’re not engaging in overt racial prejudice.
Elliot’s preferred pronouns are he/they. It’s perfectly acceptable to use they to refer to him, as per his own stated preference. Please don’t disrespect that.
Sure, you can find that bit of trivia online, but he almost exclusively goes by he in his professional work and life. He seems to be his regular pronoun, with they stated as acceptable. But he is a binary trans man. Truthfully his “he/they” seems like when some trans people say that to accommodate cis people, not a genuine statement of identity. We’re talking about a binary trans man who won’t get offended if a cis person calls him they, if they simply can’t bring themselves to use he. This isn’t the case of a someone with an enby identity.
But this is a distraction from the real discusdion here. From context, it was obvious the person I called out was engaging in degendering. You can read between the lines. They didn’t take the time to research Elliot’s pronouns first. They just reflexively degendered him.