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- politics@lemmy.nz
Once again our current govt shows it’s disdain for Maōri and te Tiriti.
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5 yo’s are supposed to be confused. Confusion leads to questions, which leads to learning.
I’m glad you understand, we don’t want any learning /s
One of the real eye opening moments for me, eons ago, was with a guy I played arenas in WoW with. Manipulator on Darkspear, if by chance, you’re out there. Anyways, he was a kiwi, and he explained to me, one night amidst our gaming, how interesting it was that Americans assumed they had the monopoly on racism. He described how, no exaggeration, their local brown people were very much real life second class citizens, and it really left an impression on me.
Sorry to see it’s not gotten better. Deport Racists!
Wait until you hear about Australia bro.
Over here it’s so embedded that most people don’t even perceive it as racism when it happens. They’re like “what the hell are you talking about, everybody says (or does) that”
I was at a funeral the other day and the paster said something like “this country was built on Judeo-Christian values and <insert name> lived by these values…”
It was the whitest funeral I think I’ve ever been to.
NZ is as racist as [a] Duck
Gaza is an example of Judeo-Christian values.
Nah, there’s a pretty recent religious cover but the whole Israeli project and everything that came from it is an example of Enlightenment values regarding nationality. The Gaza genocide isn’t fundamentally different from the Nakba, which was committed by atheists.
Nakba was committed by Jews who believed god promised them that land. Israel’s genocide is being supported by Europe and the US because Yahveh commanded the genocide of Israel’s enemies and said that Jesus won’t come back until Jews rule from the river to the sea.
Uh… to he clear, Ben Gurion didn’t believe shit about being promised the land of Palestine. Zionist leadership (and a good chunk of the rank and file, though I couldn’t tell you how much) at the time of the Nakba was atheist as all hell. The first conception that Palestinians would have to be removed from their lands was by the big man Herzl himself, and Herzl was also a committed atheist.
Uh… to he clear, Ben Gurion didn’t believe shit about being promised the land of Palestine.
citation needed. Why did Ben Gurion insist that Israel be in the lands described in the torah? Wasn’t he offered a homeland for jews in Madagascar?
Zionist leadership (and a good chunk of the rank and file, though I couldn’t tell you how much) at the time of the Nakba was atheist as all hell.
Again citation needed. Also zionism is religious in nature. The concepts of jewish homeland in the land of zion are from the torah.
Zionism is a movement based on religion.
Oh that is a load of crap. I do not want my funeral to be anything to do with organised religion.
Unfortunately our racists are currently in government, voted in of course by the racist section of the proletariat.
The worst bit about it is that they will keep place and people names that are in Te Reo, so the argument about confusion just doesn’t hold any water
My son who is on the spectrum and has really struggled to read at all, skips over most Maori words, unfamiliar names or Maori place names.
He also has a problem differentiating between other words that can also be a name or a place name, eg “Mrs Green said X” or “James walked down Brown street”.
He interprets them literally and ends up wondering why the street was brown or why was the lady green.
The specific book that they referenced on the news last night “At the Marae” was an absolute nightmare for us to work through every time it was in his book bag.
Do you think the difficulties your child experiences should effect what we teach all children and how?
I don’t think that Te Reo shouldn’t be something that is taught, probably some Te Reo needs to be in the sight words that they learn right at the start.
I was just relaying that not everyone learns the same way and can deal with challenges the same way, I think in a couple of years of doing the basics he will be able to deal with it just fine.
Nobody is claiming everybody learns the same way. What we are saying is that our educational system should be structured to help the vast majority of the students and not crippled in a way to help the extremely small minority.
Like it or not your child will be exposed to Maori words and names. Hell if your town name isn’t a Maori word there are streets and neighbourhoods that are.
This racist government and this racist MP want to erase Maori identity and want to shelter children from Maori words because they see Maoridom as a form of evil to be avoided or destroyed.
My kid does Kapa Haka. He performed at Hutt Fest a couple of months ago. He learns the words by copying the folks around him rather than reading them.
His Te Reo vocabulary isn’t terrible, he just can’t read it well.
Cool. Once again I am opposed to shaping our educational system to the lowest common denominator of students.
Mate come on, it’s out of line to call somebody’s child the “lowest common denominator”.
Holy crap, I’m glad the awesome folks that lead his Kapa Haka group are more inclusive than you are.
and I struggled all through school with reading and writing even in English (with dyslexia), that doesn’t mean that we should relegate Te Reo to an even more of a second class language.
Yeah, I suspect my son is a little dyslexic. He cannot write and may never be able to. He does Kapa Haka and I love the idea of him learning a bunch of Te Reo.
However, every night that we force our way through a book where he is just getting lost makes him really despondent and kills his enthusiasm for reading.
I understand what you are saying, not everyone learns in the same way. This seems to be less of an issue with texts that have Maōri words in them, and more of an issue if your son’s teacher not giving him texts that are appropriate to his learning (because they expect all kids to learn the same way). It’s fantastic that he is learning te reo through kapa haka.
I call bullshit
What exactly is it you don’t believe?
Weirdly when you ask that, it makes me backtrack and want to believe you. So okay, I will.
All good =)
Gotta keep the Murrays in their place.
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