• AWOL_muppet@lemmy.nz
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    1 day ago

    Yeah, I’m embarrassed - but more about our government and multiple iterations of it having completely shortsighted approaches to just about everything

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      We’ve had enemy vessels in our waters in the past, the Germans sunk multiple vessels in our waters during the war, and the way things are going, I can see similar shenanigans happening again.

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        But if that is the case, a couple of new helicopters isn’t going to help. Any potential invader that wants to take NZ is likely going to have a much stronger force than we can muster. That’s why we traditionally have relied on our allies for military strength.

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          It’s not likely we will face a full scale invasion, but commerce raiding like we saw during ww2, or illegal fishing in our waters is quite possible.

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    I’m sure there’s a mention in flight of the conchords that NZ’s tanks are just donated old UK planes that don’t fly anymore.

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      The boats were only going to be $550 million each.

      Three billion would probably have gotten two boats, and one terminal they can actually park at.

      Which is a problem, as you need two.

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          You’re right, that was the whole contract.

          Which makes it even more impressive the project was set to be more than a billion over the original estimate.

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            Idk, it sounded like there were problems with the port side of things but you can’t really gauge whether the costs are justified based on how much the ferries were going to be. They go with each other but they’re not the same type of project.

            Anyway, instead of trying to address any of that they just cancelled it ideologically because labour, and they’ve wasted a tonne of money for nothing.

            They’ve done this right across govt, inherited an economy with some challenges and deliberately nosedived it into the ground.

            We may need some new planes and shit but the money they’re putting in looks absolutely galling compared to how they’ve wrecked everything else.

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              I dunno, I think cutting your losses and starting over when you’re dealing with a shitshow on this scale is pretty sensible.

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                Not if there are immense costs associated with cutting the project.

                Nothing this government has done has been sensible or based on logic or fiscal calculations. It’s all based on ideology and the will to humiliate the previous government in any way they can and of course to suppress opposition from any quarter.

  • Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz
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    Seahawks and A320 series jets, both great choices.

    The Seahawk is from the same family as the Black Hawk, an aircraft type operated all around the world, and the A321 is part of a family of jets operated by airlines globally, probably thousands in operation around the globe.

    Both aircraft types are very popular, and operated by our allies, meaning manufacturer support should continue for decades into the future.

    I think that, long term, this will represent a cost saving over trying to keep the ageing aircraft we currently have in service.

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      These will put the fear of god into the Chinese for sure. Now they won’t even think of attacking us.