It took me reading the comments here to get that it’s pronounced Wilbur. I don’t get why it needs to be an acronym
It’s not open source unless the package name is a scabby dumpster fire.
As in the pig from Charlotte’s Web?
No it’s the name of the mascot
I suppose so. I’d rather they spell it out for simple readability. Like I don’t know what Krita means but easy to read. Kate text editor may mean something, I don’t know. Kdenlive is easy to read. Don’t know what the ‘den’ part is supposed to mean
Apparently it’s “KDE Non-Linear Video Editor”. At least kdenlive is easy to read in my opinion
My right leg is injured and I’m old so I limp and am old and in the way. I don’t give a damn if you call me gimp, a gimp, old or old gimp.
Geez, grow up already ya bunch cry babies. It’s just a friggin name for an app. If you’re insulted, hurt by that you really need to get a life.
An OLD adage: “sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me”
Ok boomer
I really like the name GIMP.
Great app though.
At first I didn’t like the idea of a name change. But WLBR is perfect (because I’m a wilbur fan).
I will be locking this issue to avoid non-core developers spamming with the same walls of texts about the project name.
Bruno is a very wise man.
I dunno. A wise man would propose a better name.
A man can be wise and still propose a name that some people don’t like. The reason why this man is wise is, he knows what would happen and is wise enough to limit / lock the thread before it happens.
There are names that ‘some people don’t like.’ There are also terrible names. WLBR is both.
Your opinion is one of many. For some the name does not matter, for others GIMP is worse than WLBR. I don’t care what the name is. To me the person Bruno was wise to lock it, because he knew non contributor would spam with their opinion and with history. That is the mark of a wise man. This is my point, not how many people like or dislike the new name. That’s not the point I am making.
GIMP being worse doesn’t mean WLBR isn’t bad.
Which is irrelevant to the point I am making.
How does this have downvotes?
I propose: WHARGRBL
The sound of a dog drinking from a sprinkler?
I hope they really commit to this. Keep gimp as an option for the obstinate among us, but make wlbr the default. Gimp is, even to people who don’t recognize it as a slur, an informal and rude word and it makes it hard for people who already don’t care about open source to not just dismiss it out of hand when they hear that name.
Do we have any actual documentation of anybody who might be called a ‘gimp’ actually being offended by the name? Or is this just more performant bullshit?
Every time one of these changes is made it creates confusion for thousands or millions of people. And it creates a reload on other software packages and dependencies to change the name.
It is no different than software changing and interface for the sake of changing it. You are forcing your users to relearn something they already know which has a real cost in time and potentially in dollars.
Gimp does not refer to people with movement disabilities. It stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program. You want to make things less offensive, double down on what the acronym stands for rather than changing it.
its a name
from bad to worse
from guatemala to guatepeor
Why not just Wilber? Just like the mascot.
Perhaps ‘WiLBeR’ would be a compromise?
Its … basically following what I’m going to call ‘GLaDOS case’ rules.
???
Just sort of seems closer to the kind of silly spellings of robot names in a fair deal of movies and such?
The Linux community can’t let an opportunity for an acronym to go to waste. Even more so for a backronym.
Could have had the recursive acronym KINGIMP (KINGIMP Is Not GIMP) smdh
That’s for the fork with a UI implemented in Qt.
GNU Wilber
From a name you don’t want to say to a name you can’t say
I think you just pronounce it Wilbur
WLBR is a radio station in PA.
I think they should keep both names and just have WLBR be the “enterprise” version.
However, in non-English speaking countries, nobody has an issue with GIMP. And even my very religious and Murican MIL uses Gimp. She doesn’t even know.
If anything, those discussions further the association, as they come up when you google “gimp program sexual” or sth like that.
It’s short for GNU image manipulation program. I mean, you could short it to imp, or rename it to Picture & Image Manipulation Program (PIMP).
I propose Scriptable Image Manipulation Program (SIMP)
SIMPly genius!
It must be something that can’t possibly be construed as sexual innuendo, like Linux Image Manipulation Program (LIMP)…
It’s a GNU program, not a Linux program. It runs on multiple platforms.
eg: the Windows Image Manipulation System
Not the strongest name. Sounds kinda weak.
Maybe “Photographic Image Manipulation Program”?
Pimp it is then!
Gimp is really just a rare/archaic ableist slur anyway - like to refer to someone with a limp or otherwise a leg/lack of a leg that impedes their gait. I’ve never heard it used in my life.
The sexual usage is from gay bdsm subculture in the 70s that the large majority of ppl who are aware of it are only aware because of Pulp Fiction.
My vote is for pimp
The sexual usage is from gay bdsm subculture in the 70s that the large majority of ppl who are aware of it are only aware because of Pulp Fiction.
I had heard gimp/gimpy used to mean “limping or is otherwise gait-impaired” often enough that I assumed the Pulp Fiction character was called the Gimp because of his posture and gait. I was completely unaware of any scene/subculture meaning until reading threads like these.
Full disclosure about my own experience: I am a disabled person who has no strong emotional reaction to the term. I do limp, some days worse than others.
Gimp is really just a rare/archaic ableist slur anyway - like to refer to someone with a limp or otherwise a leg/lack of a leg that impedes their gait. I’ve never heard it used in my life.
I’ve only heard it used that way once in my life. When I was in high school (about 20 years ago), I hurt my leg while playing basketball and was on crutches for a few weeks. This one kid in one of my classes constantly referred to me as “gimp” throughout my recovery.
He saw Pulp Fiction and thought he was clever
You have to set the WLBR_IS_GIMP env variable to get the new name. So I guess that might be what they going for, at least for now?
I get what you are saying but IMO the old name was hurting adoption. Imagine the headlines if say some city or government announced they are moving to GIMP from photoshop or affinity.
I imagine them being something along the lines of ‘Government organisation X moves from Photoshop to free open source alternative’ or if a journalist is feeling funny ‘Government organisation X moves from paid image manipulation software (PIMP) to GIMP’.
Anyways, I think it’s only a minor issue limited to English speaking countries, and only a issue for people who already have issues
And here I was worried they would pick another terrible name.
Tech in general has a huge boomer-humor problem in that all those old fucks that wrote the original code stuffed it full of puns, in-jokes, and idioms that are only relevant today in retirement homes in Ohio.
And I don’t mean this is annoying or funny, but as a legitimate problem. It’s bad enough that you have to learn English to code, you also are disadvantaged for not sharing the culture with retirement age white dudes from America.
It wouldn’t be so bad if it was good boomer humor, but remember, these are the guys who think “Linux Is Not uniX” is funny.
I disagree. Humor is humor, if it’s not funny to you, move on. I am not a boomer or American, but I like those silly little jokes that make a utilitarian and relatively dry industry somewhat entertaining.
