• wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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    War is basically all logistics and the value Ukraine is getting out of their drone program is insane

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      6 months ago

      A man fighting for his home is worth 100 fighting for someone else’s cause. Russia was never going to win the numbers game.

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      6 months ago

      Honestly when they’re done, that manufacturing capacity will do great things for their economy.

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      6 months ago

      Ukraine playing it smart and understanding how modern warfare is done. Russia only throwing in more and more soldiers.

      • wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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        In Russia’s defence, who could have possibly have thought that invading Ukraine in the winter wasn’t going to be a simple 3 day weekend kind of thing?

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            That feels like a big contingency that they failed to adequately plan for

            Plus wouldn’t the armed forces still fight?

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              They would have fought, but they would have been demoralized.

              They also would have likely been replaced by a Russian sympathizer or asset and the US/West would be very wary to send all sorts of expensive weapon systems to Ukraine.

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          Losing a generation in war that could have added much value to their economy can’t really be smart or worth it, can it?

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    Russia it was already a mess before but considering their median age, after a 1mln loss they’re as good as fucked.

    Putin doesn’t care about his country, but Russians then?

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      They don’t care either. The majority, that is, there are some good apples who left the bunch

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    6 months ago

    I keep reading about how Russia’s economy is on the brink of collapse just like how I keep reading about how Trump’s voters are turning on him. I believe that both are (somewhat) true, but I don’t think anything will come from either one.

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    6 months ago

    For context, the America lost about 55,000 soldiers in the Vietnam War, which lasted about 10-12 years. Russian has already lost at least 600,000 in a couple of years.

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      The article does not say that there have been 600k casualties. It says there are 600k fighting in Ukraine.

      Where did you get “already lost at least 600,000”?

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        I agree that the 600K figure is a mis-read of the article; however:

        According to figures from Ukraine's General Staff, Russia has lost 217,440 troops since Jan. 1, 2025.
        
        The discrepancy tallies with Western analysis of Russia's staggering losses.
        
        "They lose somewhere in the ballpark of 35,000 to 45,000 people per month, and perhaps they recruit a little bit north of that number," George Barros, Russia team lead at the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), told the Kyiv Independent earlier this month.
        

        I am generally inclined to believe Ukraine’s official figures of over 1 million dead, injured or captured Russian soldiers so far in this “3 day special military operation”.

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            You don’t. You have lots of conscription to supplant your front lines. You do all sorts of corruption in the middle-ranks of the military, so junior officers can generate income off the desperation of their greener soldiers. You create an industry around the war, such that everyone hates it but someone is always profiting off the misery of others.

            And then the machine grinds on.

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    Kelin was then asked about Russian army recruitment.

    “I’m not a specialist in this area, but as I understand it we have 50-60,000 a month, those volunteers who are coming, recruiting, posting, and they would like to get engaged in this thing (in Ukraine),” he replied.

    He did not explain why the size of the Russian army fighting in Ukraine has gone down despite what would amount to around 250,000 extra troops being recruited and sent to the front since the beginning of the year.

    From I figure, basically by giving recruitment numbers and total numbers in Ukraine, the West can calculate number of casualties, which the West figures is 1 million. Remember casualties includes injured.

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      Ukraine has been keeping a tally of Russian losses since pretty early on, and it’s been pretty much perfectly accurate.

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            Nope, by law Russia cannot use conscripts outside their own borders. All of them signed a contract to be there.

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              Russia also has the warped idea that Ukraine is part of Russia and they’re reclaiming it, so who really knows whether any law is being honored.

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          The amount of money they get for signing on is so staggeringly huge, it is one of the drivers of the high inflation they are having.

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            The amount of money they are told they get for signing…

            Some of it goes to corrupt commanders and various middle men.

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    So there’s a stable inflow and outflow. I wonder what fractions are dead, wounded (disabled permanently), wounded (temporary), and retired (back to civilian life in one form or another, likely traumatized).

    Alternatively, Russia is building up a massive army outside of Ukraine. That seems unlikely though, there’s no news about that, I’ll discard that hypothesis for now.

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    Reminds of of that scene in tiberian sun when NOD installs the new AI

    EVA: “Casualties rates unacceptable, this course of action -”

    Anton: “stop, Activate the reprogramming”

    EVA:“Casualty rates well within acceptable parameters”

    I get the feeling they take ww2 loses before they even notice.

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    It alludes to the staggering number in the title and in the abstract but does not give the number which means it’s clickbait.

    • Hubi@feddit.orgOP
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      The discrepancy tallies with Western analysis of Russia’s staggering losses. “They lose somewhere in the ballpark of 35,000 to 45,000 people per month, and perhaps they recruit a little bit north of that number,” George Barros, Russia team lead at the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), told the Kyiv Independent earlier this month.